DeltaBetaBaby, thank you for pointing that out! Under Florida law (at least as I read it now) the definition of "hazing" is NOT limited to something done as a condition of initiation or admission into an organization. There's explicit "not limited to" language in the law. I was in error when I posted the comment that connected "hazing" and "pledges" (if my reading of the law is now closer to correct).

Law is posted at

http://www.stophazing.org/laws/fl_law.htm

Serves me right for not checking more carefully. Thanks again.

The following seem to be the lastest new release about this story. Note: They do not make a pretty picture of the chapter and activies within.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...ostemailedlink

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs..../61103018/1075

IMHO, you have more of a right, not less, to characterize and criticize students on your own campus, even if you're a freshman, and even if upperclassmen disagree with you. The public reputation your classmates create impacts the way you and your degree will be perceived. Heaven knows I'm a harsh judge of kids who screw up at my alma mater.

just saw this... wtf?

I'm just saying that when you say things online about other groups on your campus, as an active, it may come back to you and your sorority.

If you know for sure that every one of your sisters shares your opinion on this fraternity, then rock on. But if you DON'T know that for sure, you might want to hold your tongue a bit.

it's okay to disagree with her sisters...if she thinks that they're dumbasses, then she thinks that they're dumbasses, she doesn't anyone's validation, she just needs one encounter with them

Sigma Alpha Epsilon HQ has closed the chapter, according to this news report:

http://www.wftv.com/news/10276110/detail.html

Well, that was a really descriptive news report.

To put it bluntly, if they F--K up, then they should be gone from ignorance on their part!:mad: Get rid of them and then go back if they can and re-colonize.

Suddenly, SAE seems to be in the spot light?

SAE IHQ better put a clamp on this and soon.

Earp, you have no idea what went on at the house that night. Did you even read that report? First off notice how it was changed from hazing to "party" also did you notice that it said it is unclear why they were sent to the hospital? Simple, because noone had alcohol poisoning or anything like that. It was called a party becasue it was never clearly established if it was hazing. Would you like to know why? Because every pledge did everything voluntarily, they even said this while being questioned by the police. This is why the law should be questioned and is out of control, a sentence is being set forth when nothing has even clearly being established. Guilty until proven innocent in this case.

Tom;
If one uses a search engine with a news option, one can find stories on more than just SAE. Plug in any GLO and see what comes up.
I have seen a few stories that I just did not wish nor wanted to post.

And National seems to be doing just what they need to be doing. Perhaps in this case, could have waited for some of the dust to settle.

How about you shut your fu**ing mouth.

How about you refrain from telling people to shut up? That's up to the moderators or the board administrator.

That's not an opinion.

DeltaAlum;
While I can see your POV, I have to side with my Brother's thoughts as I had simular ideas when I posted my answer. IMHO, the post that you two are dealing with may have gone one line too far.

How about you refrain from acting like everyone's daddy on a message board, that would be nice.

Generally I don't pay any attention to the mindless, unreadable crap that Tom Earp posts....but when he starts commenting on how my organization "fucks up" and what our HQ should and shouldn't do, while, at the same time, continually acting like "Ramda Guy's" shit doesn't stink....I have a problem with it.

That's not an opinion either.

From what I recall reading in current laws/policies, you are very correct Jess'.