It's smelling halfway around the world!

Did anyone else catch the one news conference where the DA (I assume of Boulder, but I'm not sure) said that, "at this time, neither John Karr or John Ramsey has been indicted." I found that phrasing very interesting - obviously, the thought of the Ramseys being involved hasn't gone out the window.

Dr. Cyril Wecht had some interesting things to say, too. While he (and most of us, I presume) hopes that the parents were not involved, it does seem strange that a man would travel so far to see the child he "loved" on Christmas, instead of being with his own children, as his ex-wife says. Also, Karr claims to have had some sort of sexual contact with JonBenet, yet no semen was found. Karr would have had to break into this house (which had an alarm system), find her bedroom, wait while everyone came home, knew the amount of the bonus (the $118,000 "ransom"), purportedly had some sexual contact with JonBenet, and left her in a room so hard to find that a maid who had worked there for three years didn't know it existed. Karr then would have written the infamous ransom note, practicing it first and using or excellently faking Patsy Ramsey's handwriting on a notepad when he knew he was leaving a body, and not part of a kidnapping. It just doesn't add up.

And on another note, isn't it a pity that this child's death gets SO much publicity, while so many other children die in anonymity? Granted, the whole childhood beauty pagent thing made this a "sexy" news story (no pun intended), but the parents of those other children must feel terrible about the lack of concern on behalf of their kids.

I saw footage earlier of him be escorted from Thailand and he was answering reporters questions. He admitted he was "playing" with JonBenet and her death was an "accident". :confused: If the footage was real and in context, he is totally guilty.

I am sure they did help the authorities as much as possible . .. but I am sure that on the advice of counsel they declined to put themselves in a situation where the authorities could build a case against them . . . which the police may have done regardless of whether the parents killed the little girl.

Generally if there is know obvious suspect the people closest to the victim are usually thought to have done it.

How would a lie detector test have helped the police catch the killer when the parents weren't the killers?

Would anyone have appreciated the police asking them to take a lie detector test because they thought you killed your daughter?

I would have been absolutely enraged that the police asked me and told them to take a flying leap, if I didn't deck the person making the suggestion.

Or crazy.

What if John Ramsey and John Karr were in cahoots to commit this crime, and Patsy truely didn't know anything about it? She could have had some tiny suspicion of her husband, but not enough to get her to talk to anyone about it. That could explain some of her odd behavior.


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PsychTau

Your points certainly have merit -- especially the part about the lawyers advice.

How taking the test would have helped, it seems to me, would be to take some of the suspicion off of the Ramseys.

On the other hand, while not being an expert, I've heard that Lie Detectors can be "beaten" and aren't always conclusive.

All I can say is that with all of the media coverage -- local and national -- there is just something about the way the Ramseys acted that made (makes) me uneasy.

As I said about Mr. Karr, I have no proof. Just a bad feeling.

That's an understatement. That's one reason why the results of lie detector tests are rarely admissible as evidence in court.

I think I'm going to make "STFU Cyril Wecht" t-shirts and sell them in the middle of Downtown Pittsburgh. I could make enough money to quit my job.

Of course I'd be freaking out if I was a parent and asked to take a ld test, but you have to realize it's police procedure when there aren't any suspects - the closest people to the victim are the ones they look at.

Very true. And with good reason -- more often than not, the killer turns out to be someone close to the victim.

"JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness - this darkness that now separates us," read one of the e-mails, which the newspaper said Friday it obtained from a source close to the investigation."
-from wire service reports quoting the Rocky Mountain News

Reportedly this was sent to the University of Colorado J-School professor who was corresponding with Karr for a couple of years. He (Karr) allegedly asked the Prof. to go the the former Ramsey house and read it out loud.

This guy seems to be seriously messed up.

Either that, or as someone above speculated, the guy doesn't want to go to jail in Tailand (One night in Bankok makes a hard man humble -- From the musical Chess) and figures he can plead insanity here.

Lie detector tests are a piece of crap and unreliable. We learned how to "beat" them in a college psychology class. I wouldn't take one, ever -- especially not if it had anything to do with incompetent police who were trying to put something I didn't do on me.

I thought they failed more often the other way. Like, I mean, if I wasn't guilty, and was nervous about the polygraph, it would make me look guilty.

LD tests should be done away with. They seem like such a waste of time, and I think that time would be of the essence, what with statutes of limitations,etc.

Val -- polygraphs are even admissible in Colorado?

I didn't think they were admissible anywhere...but I haven't looked it up here.