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macallan25 09-27-2006 03:45 PM

From what I have seen in the South.....good chapters haze. I'd actually say great chapters haze.

jon1856 09-27-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1328756)
What is it with you and your links?

I like facts to back up thoughts,POV's, and opinions.
And then there are copy right laws to deal with, free use issuies.....et al

PhrozenGod01 09-27-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328770)
I like facts to back up thoughts,POV's, and opinions.

Facts, Schmacts. You can prove anything with facts. Geez.

DSTCHAOS 09-27-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328770)
I like facts to back up thoughts,POV's, and opinions.

Why would you expect for there to be a link to facts associated with his opinion that hard work equals hazing? :rolleyes:

C'mon now.

jon1856 09-27-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1328759)
From what I have seen in the South.....good chapters haze. I'd actually say great chapters haze.

Good hazing?
Then why are so many, in just the past few days, getting their butts kicked and closed down?

Something to do with regulations, policy, and law...?

As has been descussed to death here, times are changing and if one does not change with them, they will be gone......

DSTCHAOS 09-27-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01 (Post 1328771)
You can prove anything with facts.

No but this isn't a topic of "facts" unless people were throwing out certain specifics. An opinion on hazing and hard work doesn't count as a certain specific.

DSTCHAOS 09-27-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328773)
Good hazing?
Then way are so many, in just the past few days, getting their butts kicked and closed down?

Something to do with regulations, policy, and law...?

As has been descussed to death here, times are changing and if one does not change with them, they will be gone......


Requiring pledges to do study halls is technically "hazing." Even if the pledges end the semester with 4.0 GPAs.

So there IS good "hazing" based on both the intent and outcome.

jon1856 09-27-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1328775)
Requiring pledges to do study halls is technically "hazing." Even if the pledges end the semester with 4.0 GPAs.

So there IS good "hazing" based on both the intent and outcome.

DSTCHAOS;
Interesting point. However, it is not one that I recall ever being used to defend what is generaly refered to as Hazing on this board or threads.

Nor is it, IMHO and IMHB, was the posting/poster I quoted was refering to.

jon1856 09-27-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1328772)
Why would you expect for there to be a link to facts associated with his opinion that hard work equals hazing? :rolleyes:

C'mon now.

Thank you for agreeing with me....:) :D

jon1856 09-27-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01 (Post 1328771)
Facts, Schmacts. You can prove anything with facts. Geez.

Since you joined into this group a bit late, show us what you got....;)
What are your thoughts on Hazing?

PhrozenGod01 09-27-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328785)
Since you joined into this group a bit late, show us what you got....;)
What are your thoughts on Hazing?

At some point, most people will get hazed, whether it be for a collegiate group, a team, or just in life. It might not be fair, but that's the way it is.

jon1856 09-27-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01 (Post 1328787)
At some point, most people will get hazed, whether it be for a collegiate group, a team, or just in life. It might not be fair, but that's the way it is.

OK, good start.
Now, go back to Kevins first post and narrow down your anwer to college life....

PhrozenGod01 09-27-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328789)
OK, good start.
Now, go back to Kevins first post and narrow down your anwer to college life....

Well, hazing is stupid. And I mean that with some common sense. For example, taking out pledges for dinner or something or to study is a part of pledging. Making them eat rotten eggs until their sick, or something like that, is disgusting and doesn't build brotherhood or sisterhood. It builds dysfunctional families (in the greek sense). Pledging=work, both mental and physical, but unfortunately, some people take it too far.

Sorry it took so long to respond. I got some calls at work.

Tom Earp 09-27-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1328773)
Good hazing?
Then why are so many, in just the past few days, getting their butts kicked and closed down?

Something to do with regulations, policy, and law...?

As has been descussed to death here, times are changing and if one does not change with them, they will be gone......


I have no idea what anyother GLO's policy is, but anything according to LXA's regulations that makes a New Member Associate do some thing that does not include an Active is against the rules.

This also includes manatory study periods which I do not agree with as there is supposedly one reason people go to college, GRADUATE!

In making a NMA has to learn the National/Local History, that should be part of the induction with tests to see if they know the information. They will carry the knowledge and information to pass it along to new members.

If not, where is the history and lore of the GLO?

Why not just start a club of Tap a keg a day, rent a slum house and have partys?

Why do some ask, because some dumb asses HAZE and it becomes public information because of bodily harm and it affects all of us!:mad:

jon1856 09-27-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01 (Post 1328811)
Well, hazing is stupid. And I mean that with some common sense. For example, taking out pledges for dinner or something or to study is a part of pledging. Making them eat rotten eggs until their sick, or something like that, is disgusting and doesn't build brotherhood or sisterhood. It builds dysfunctional families (in the greek sense). Pledging=work, both mental and physical, but unfortunately, some people take it too far.

Sorry it took so long to respond. I got some calls at work.

Well understood and thank you.
We are on same page, same line, same sentence.....:) ;)


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