yes, we dont use coffins. and, i have never seen bones at our rituals either.

off topic: i saw some tribal show on the discovery channel whose relative had past away. they burned the body on an open fire. then, they took the ashes and crused it up, mixed it in some soup, and had everyone eat it. :eek:

what is paddy murphy??

I know there is a Irish folk song called "The Day Paddy Murphy Died" and I've been to a bar or two with the name Paddy Murphy's.

Goat
 

saw two mountin' goats yesterday mornin' in the Walgreen (he's
a TKE) parking lot. One was spotted brown and the other was a
white one, and they were a mountin'
TNE used a goat in some chapters

Re: Goat
 

Do you mean

mountain goats
or
mounting goats?

On another note, I have a funny goat story from when I was about 7 years old. I was at my family's farm one weekend and decided to go into the goat barn to feed them, which I had done before many times. This time however I decided it would be fun to actually go into their pen and "hang out" with them. Big mistake. Long story short I got my ass kicked when three of them pretty much turned my body into a head butting bag. I've hated goats ever since.

Like I said, I'm not sure if it was a Sigma Phi Epsilon or an SAE event I was at, but it wasn't Paddy Murphy's, not yet at least. IT could very well have been made for it and just be hanging around though.

to SAEalumnus and AZNSAE.. of course you'd say that... ;)

but i'll keep it quiet, if you can lend me a goat... or unicorn's blood... that might work too...

PiKA2001 this should help to answer who/what paddy murphy is. My boyfriend is a SAE so i know a little about it.

Paddy Murphy, according to SAE legend, was a bootlegger who was doing deals with Al Capone. During one of the arrangements, Elliot Ness and his company of crime fighters stormed in on the affair to apprehend Murphy. However, when Ness signaled for Murphy to surrender, he instead reached for a gun, and Ness shot him down.

As Murphy fell to the ground, dying of a wound inflicted by Ness, he gave Ness the secret handshake that only the brothers of SAE know. Ness, an SAE himself, realized that he had killed a brother of his fraternity. Ness ordered that Paddy Murphy have an honorary burial, in recognition of his fallen brother.

SAEs all have different ways to honor Paddy Murphy, most which include a day/ night or formal devoted to him.

The Skull and Bones at Yale have bones apparently.

Geronimo's (the Apache chief) specifically are rumored to be there.

I might be able to help with the unicorn's blood, that's our mascot. We keep her at HQ in St. Louis where I will be visiting this weekend for a Council meeting. ;)

Yep...
 

Now if any of us did use any part of a deceased human being, we wouldn't be able to tell you that we did, now would we? ;)

But really - let's just say that some of our chapters are so hard core that some alumni members LITERALLY pledge A PART of THEMSELVES after they pass on to the chapter eternal...

ERIK, you're not supposed to talk about our "PETS"!!! :D

Re: Yep...
 

Is it their wangs? Do you guys like to use wangs in ritual? How do you preserve the wangs?

-Rudey

LOL...
 

The preservation technique is also a secret... :D

No, but really, I was only half joking about that second part...

Ahhh St. Louis. Home of my alma mater... weird thinking that I have an alma mater.

Any way... we'll have to arrange some sort of trade off... anything you need? catsuits? coffins? I have some very fine altars, half off, only slightly stained...