The meanest dogs I've ever met have been Pomeranians. Go figure!

I was attacked by a pitbull at a bbq. I was playing around with the guy at the grill and he dropped a burger.... then he picked it up and threw it at me when my back was turned. little did i know the burger was still attached to my pants and when i went to the front yard to pet the dogs they jumped all over me.

I thought i had crapped myself but that was just slobber from the dogs eating the meat.

Pits are ruthless meat hounds! and they live to embarrass people walking around with meat on their pants. LOL


Nah i really do like pits... its sad when u grow attached to them and they get sick at very young ages... :(

I love animals, but I agree they are not people. I have a friend that gets insane about animals and I'm pretty sure she would chose her dogs life over a human's. That's weird to me. We are currently not on the best terms because I didn't want her dog to sniff and lick my 2 month old baby. Umm....sorry.

If I remember correctly the biggest dog biters out there are supposedly dalmations. I've never been around one myself, just a statistic from the insurance industry. That said, I know a lot of insurance companies have actual lists of aggressive dogs that they won't write/insure. Pit bulls generally make those lists just because of the rep that they've attained.

I thought you would know better being from the state that is home to Detroit. It's not about banning pit's because they bite; it's about banning pit's because they maul. Any breed of dog can bite, but not all have "lockjaw" or go senile early.

I'm not originally from Michigan. I've only lived in Lansing for a little over two months. I'm originally from Iowa - and there are a lot of communities in Iowa that already ban pit bulls.

Exactly. My Rat Terrier could bite me but his jaw won't lock and he'd do hardly any damage. A Pitbull could kill me with just one bite. Also, Pitbulls have a genetic predisposition to be a little off. It takes a strong, dominant owner to train this dog and most Pitbull owners I've seen aren't responsible enough to handle this breed. I'm not down with exterminating the breed but I think the owners need to take responsibility- such as taking classes on the right way to train their Pitbull.

OMG, you did not just say that. Do your research, that isn't even true.

And to all, I didn't compare those of African descent to dogs; I compared one unjust law with a set of them. It's discrimination, whether based on breed or race, and that is unjust.

Ummm and eating animals is murder huh? When they attack humans should they be put on a trial and have it televised on CourtTV? When animals get into someone's house are they "Breaking and entering"?

They were made to fight in a pit. The breed is artificial. It is not a result of millions of years of evolution. The head, the chest, the stamina were all created to destroy. And I read somewhere that even PETA supports the ban on breeding them.

-Rudey

The pictures of the puppies are cute, but I wouldn't be comfortable with a big dog like that around a baby.

OMG I did just say that! What are you talking about?

Pit bulls jaws do not lock in place, nor do they go senile earlier than any other dog breed. The media perpetuates this lie, as they did in the 90s with Rottweilers when they were the "bad breed," and with GSDs in the 80s. The AKC actually lists the APBTs as one breed that does exceedingly well with children.

And Rudey, I am not stating that a dog is a human, nor am I stating that they should be treated as such. I am stating that we, as humans, should treat our dogs humanely. This includes love, proper training, vet care, and food, water, and shelter. Most dogs that attack, have been abused. Pit bulls, unfortunately, are one of the most abused dog breeds. Mostly because of the "urban ganster" culture that promotes the dogs as fierce. Dogs that have been trained to fight, I see no problem in putting them down, as early training is very difficult to correct. I do see a problem in banning a whole breed of dog, since all dogs have fighting instincts.

The pit bull is one of many breeds that were bred for fighting, however, we don't have to continue on that path. The bulldog was bred for bull baiting, which eventually was outlawed and the dogs became pets. Just because a dog was origninally bred for a purpose doesn't mean that the only thing the dog can do is that purpose. Otherwise, dogs would only be herding dogs, the original purpose for domestication.

And I'm sorry, People for the unEthical Treatment of Animals are imbeciles. Yes, they advocate the forced extinction of pit bulls, but they also state that we shouldn't keep any animal as a pet or livestock herd.

Ok, I was wrong about the lockjaw.

Are Pit Bulls that much more dangerous than attack dogs such as Rottweilers & German Shepherd, or is it a case of “no such thing as bad dogs, just bad owners?
BOTH SAYS THE RSPCA. Paul Edwards.
Pit Bulls were breed from Staffordshire Bull Terriers & Bull Mastiffs - Not to guard, or hunt, but to viciously rip other dogs to death in pits while their bloodthirsty owners cheered.
“They can literally sever limbs,” the RSPCAs, Paul Edwards said.
Unlike German Shepherds, which lock their jaws, Pit Bulls move their back molars once they have bitten. Their lower jaw scissors back & forth to sever flesh from the bone.
They are not large dogs, but they have an enormous power-to-weight ratio. Their jaw strength is far greater than any other dog.
A Rottweiler will exert 800 pounds-per-square-inch jaw pressure and a Bull Terrier will exert 1200psi. A Pit Bull will exert more than 2000 psi.
You can have savage Labradors and savage Chihuahuas, but none of them has the potential to maim & kill that a pit bull does.
42% of all dog related deaths in the US are from Pit Bulls - & they constitute 1% of all dogs. 70% of those deaths were children.
A Rotty or Doberman are savage because they are
territorial - they will defend their space. A Pit Bull is not savage in that sense-just unpredictable.



http://www.edba.org.au/courier.html

First, you quote a Austrailian article about things that happen in the US and Paul Edwards doesn't even speak for the entire RSPCA; the article goes on to say how loyal a pit is. Not quoting the entire article makes it seem different than it is, which is a media article, not a scientific article.

Second, dog breeds are mis-identified all the time. This morning there was a dog attack and the first articles stated that a pit did it, it turns out that it was a lab.

Third, I've read many conflicting articles about the pressure that dog jaws can exert, and I'm not inclined to argue this point without further research. However, I do urge you to further your research.

Fourth, yes, other dogs do have the potential to maim and kill just as a pit does. I was mauled as a child, and I still bear the scars. I got pushed down by a dog last week in the clinic, and the only reason I wasn't mauled this time was because the owner knew to muzzle their dog. (Those breeds, for anyone interested, were a beagle and a dalmatian.)

Fifth, yes, certain dog breeds are more territorial and certain breeds have higher prey drives. Children are prey, if their parents are responsible and keep them away from untrained dogs, this wouldn't be a problem. Likewise, owners need to be responsible and train their animals, and keep them away from children if they know they have this problem. Also, I want to know how many of those attacks were provoked. Children often don't understand the things they do that annoy or hurt the dog. I don't think that any dog should be left alone with any child, pit or not.

Like I said, dogs respond to treatment. If they are raised being loved, cared for, and properly trained, pits are wonderful pets. I personally am looking for a pit from a rescue or shelter to be a companion to my Rottweiler. Unfortunately, many pits have been mistreated by everything from fighting to simple neglect, and that brings out the worst in any dog.

I'm not saying that you should go out and adopt a pit, I think that people should adopt a pet that fits their lifestyle. While there are laws that currently restrict what type of pets you can own, most of those laws are to enforce the humane treatment of the animal (exotics) or to enforce public health and safety (livestock, vaccinations, et cetera.) I just feel that it isn't in the public interest to ban a dog breed that if properly handled poses no threat.

It is sad that a breed is being punished mostly due to irresponsible owners. I see pits on a daily basis and trust them more on exam than I trust a corgie, chihuahua, damnation (ie dalmation), chow, shar pei, spitz, shibu inu (these are the breeds that we muzzle most often). However, these breeds (at least most) do not have the capabilities to kill me (unless I get rabies or a flesh eating bacteria). I do not trust most pits around other animals especially small dogs and cats unless they were raised with them. Most of the problems I see are due to bad owners that put them out in the yard on a chain, they give them no chance to properly socialize. and offer no training So, we are banning a breed in order to punish these irresponsible o's but unfortunately the good o's are the ones that suffer as the bad ones don't give a $hit. Many of the DRs I work with have pits and they are well behaved, get along with kids and other animals so they are not necessarily inherently bad.