He's only a Commander but, yea, I've definitely heard that before :)

I'm sure he's an admiral in the eyes of you and your girls.:)

This thread began in February. Any new developments about the rapist?

Ah Jesus, can we at least pretend we believe in "innocent until proven guilty"?

I don't want to get all New York Times Editorial Board on you, but an 'alleged' wouldn't kill you.

She's Canadian. She doesn't understand American laws.

-Rudey

I'm travelling to France, so I am boning up on my Napoleonic code (Guilty until proven innocent).

Here's an update...
 

The alleged victim of the attack says she and an investigator taped a phone conversation with Owens in which he said he was distraught over what he had done, and considered killing himself.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5392082

When asked under cross examination if she might have consented, she said, "I suppose," but later said if she couldn't remember consenting she didn't consider it consent. She admits to being drunk. He said she was "asleep" most of the time.

Swell, another He Did, Or Might have?

Could have would have or what ever?:rolleyes:

High, I have Been I think, well at least a deffinite maybe.:rolleyes:

If not true, way to go to screw a Young Mans life!:eek:

Tom, Midn 1/C Owens said himself that she was asleep most of the time. No one is capable of giving consent while sleeping unless they're telepathic or something!

Yeah, that's pretty damning -- the only question is whether she really did give consent. I don't know how to read her "I suppose" answer which she then recanted. It's possible that she did consent and then pass out, but his feelings of guilt along with "asleep" comments are pretty hard to overlook.

No matter how this turns out, someone probably gets kicked out of the academy and loses a potential career.

Just have to hope that the military justice system works correctly in this case.

An update on the situation:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031800760.html

Does that mean we get to make the guy an Example?

I think what it probably means is that superintendents of the service academy(s) and the faculty are going to have to take alleged sexual assaults seriously.

The latest article does not mention the Air Force Academy, but the same thing was in all of the news media here a year or two ago and investigations turned up pretty much the same thing.

The print/paper version of that article goes into greater detail discussing the fact that the academies are different being military. The government could have brought UCMJ charges against the midshipman, but in this case, did not.

Looks like the Owens case is moving forward:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...ocal-headlines