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Kudos to 33girl, who articulated the division between the equity (good) feminists and the gender (evil) feminists. She is absolutely right.
As for "Italian" sororities and "feminisits" sororities...who cares? It just shows the value of our Greek system: we provide this wonderful structure that everyone else wants. Let them establish themselves and flourish as they will. If they have no traction they will die out naturally. |
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I didn't gather that they thought the sex toy parties were feminists and that's not what I took offense at. I took a offense at the following comments about how the reason these girls are different is because one of them made a comment about "polynesian culture influences."
To me that insinuated that what seperated them from us "non-feminist" sorority members was that they could also be intelligent. I dont need to recite how we as greek organizations look to set high academic standards, you guys are in them you know. Now maybe if the sorority focused on areas specifically to help women I could understand the lable feminist but to claim they deserve the label feminist because they make intellectual comments is ridiculous. I am a self-proclaimed feminist, not the fem-nazis, but i believe that it is a women's choice to do what she wants with her life as long as it doens't hurt others. So i'm not one of the ones that gives feminism a bad name. I hope:) |
33girl, thanks for taking the time to look those distinctions up! I learned something new today. When I think of feminists, I first think of Equity Feminists and this may be partly my age and family experience. My mother's family has a long history of involvement in the League of Women's Voters and as Suffragettes. My mother taught me about the ERA and what it said/meant.
NebraskaDelt: It's too bad you had an experience with women like that. I suppose it was much like when we have to deal with men who think we should all be barefoot and pregnant, so most of us do understand how upsetting it is. Those kinds of nutcases make us all look bad! Dee |
Trinity--a new beginning
I salute the ladies at Trinity for their intrusion into the bastion of
the once-PC place. Perhaps there is a need to be filled indeed. Why, right here in rustic Colorado a store for weight gain has opened and doing well. I think the fat girl sorority may open a chapter at U of Colo-Colorado Springs, a new school which the Pi Phis have pioneered. The fatsos'll afford them some great competition. Some of the bulemics in here can shop at the weight gain clinic here, have a Colorado vacation, take on some tonnage whilst being a pioneer in another greek movement. Yep, 2006 is really looking up. SO, our speedometer is soon at zero, and I hope we can stir up some ugly correspondence, fueling the nasties, and getting a good start. Cheers! But with Tommy still a greek adonis with narrow hips and small waist, there must be a place for him. Maybe some of those who have bashed him will begin to look in directions unexplored. At any rate, a new thread for the fatsos and the hatefuls....Har Har Har de Har Har as our old pal Ralph Kramden'd say...R.I.P. |
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A brotherhood movement to counter orgs such as that is currently in progress
Myself and several other gentlemen are in the process of starting a Greek movement to counter such sororities and what they stand for.
Can't give too many details right now; we're in the preliminary stages but we feel our counter movement will gain momentum very quickly once it takes hold. More details later. Stay tuned. |
that sounds like a train wreck. the article seems focused on parties and alcohol (even mentioning that boxed wine is the drink of choice for this group) and that the jock fraternity was worried that their reputation would have changed after hanging out with the nerdy girls. i don't know if it is the group that is terrible or if the author is terrible.
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I think that the biggest mistake this article makes, besides using Robbin's opinions/comments, is the use of the word feminism without a proper definition. Of course I didn't read the entire article, just what was posted...but I know that besides what some in this thread are calling "bad" and "good" feminists (a value judgement I think is a little harsh) there are practically hundreds of different kinds of feminist movements. These days, calling someone or something "feminist" is not really saying much as far as describing that thing or person.
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As I indicated before: More details later. Stay tuned. Merry Christmas and a happy holiday to all. |
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Hey Erik. Clean out your PM box. Merry Christmas. And back on topic... well kinda not I guess... but I don't get why it's so bad to talk about sex toys and buying them as gag gifts to sisters. If it makes you uncomfortable then I understand, but it just sounds like a normal conversation that I've overheard and taken part of that happens with Greeks and non-Greeks. |
I don't see the big deal with sex toys. I bought one of my sisters the Kama Sutra for her birthday, she wanted a copy. When I was in college one of the sisters hosted a sex toy party, it was fun and definately a learning experience!
I don't get the connect with them and feminism. Also I am not sure that I would call women that hate men feminist, they should have a different name. I consider myself feminist. My sorority promotes women issues but I wouldn't call it a feminist organization. Maybe there is a place for a sorority that promotes feminist ideals? The article isn't really clear what seperates the sorority for other organizations. |
What you do regarding sex is your personal business.
When people associate sex toys with "the sorority experience" or feminism, there's an issue. I'm not saying this article was doing either of the two. The sex toy thing was not the main point to be gotten from this feminist sorority article. It just stood out to me because some people made it seem common for sororities to give sex toy gifts to each other. I was unaware of that trend OR I figured that trend was associated with the personal preferences of certain women and not being in a sorority. |
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