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DST_philoso4 11-04-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by RACooper
I'm just appalled that you view prayer as a weapon... which seems to be pretty much counter to Jesus' teachings.

I guess I choose the follow the teachings of the 'Prince of Peace' not some other god of violence and vengence.

just remember this man, you can NOT make sense out of nonsense. Notice he NEVER responded to anything previously stated, including the scriptures, but is now quoting scriptures [out of context mind you] and completely ignoring the facts! the TRUE weapon of mass destruction is IGNORANCE!!! and if he's any indication of the dumbassdedness in the world... WE'RE DOOMED!!

YAHSHUA's son 11-04-2005 01:10 PM

you are doomed unless you accept YAHSHUA as your personal savior.

repent daughter of minerva for the KINGDOM OF THE LIVING GOD IS AT HAND GET COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF YAHSHUA THE PASSOVER LAMB THAT TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD AND DEATH WILL PASSOVER YOU


YAHSHUA STANDS AT THE DOOR OF YOUR HEART LET HIM IN

RACooper 11-04-2005 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself over the knowlege of God, bringing every thought into the obediance of Christ(YAHSHUA) 2 Corithians 10 : 4-5
First off lets correct your "quote"
for the weapons of our warfare are not merely human, but they have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguements and every proud obstacle raised up against the knowledge of God, and we take every thought captive to obey Christ

Now I'm hoping you understood that Paul was using the imagery of warfare in writing advice to counter those who happened to be engaged in a debate with the fledgling Christian community in Corinth right?


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put on the whole armor of God so that you will be able to stand firm against strategies and tricks of the devil.for we are night fighting against flesh and blood but against evil rulers and authorities in the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness that rule the world and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms-------PRAY AT ALL TIMES AND ON EVERY OCCASION IN THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. EPHESIANS 6 : 10-18
not going to bother with correcting this as it would take to long - but again you do understand the context of the letter right? You do undestand the entire section you quoted refers to preparing for spiritual warfare as right? you do also understand that it was in again the context of defending themselves in spiritual/theological debates in the community right? finally you do understand that again allegorical symbolism was being used - and in the entirity of the quote it talks of armour or defending themselves... the WMD you compared prayer to are weapons not armour...

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THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT IS THE WORD OF GOD(YAHSHUA)

THE WORD OF GOD IS LIVING AND POWERFUL SHARPER THAN ANY TWO EDGEDED SWORD PIERCING EVEN TO THE DIVIDING ASUNDER OF THE SOUL AND SPIRIT,AND THE THE JOINTS AND MARROW DISCERNING THE VERY THOUGHTS AND INTENTIONS OF THE HEART. HEBREWS 4:12
Nice - misinterpreting theological symbolism used to explain how discerning and exacting the Lord in seeing the true nature of a person; and equating it to a weapon of violence... though I do find it telling you did actually use any of Christ's words - is that because you couldn't find much in terms of Christ using the imagery or violence or war in the promotion of his message?

Again though I think you are missing the context of why Paul uses the symbolism he does - Who was Paul? What culture was he a citizen of? and finally how militaristic was the symbolism of the society in which Paul grew up?

If you contrast the symbolism used by Chirst or writers of the New Testament you might notice that they don't use the symbolism of warfare or armaments like Paul does - because they are coming from a different cultural background.

Finally whats with the all capitals? Do you think that makes the message more powerful despite the fact it highlights your mistakes?

YAHSHUA's son 11-04-2005 03:53 PM

do not think that i have come to bring peace on the earth i did not come to bring peace but a sword(Word of God)



the prince of peace will bring peace to those who are blessed to have his HOLY SPIRIT enter into their bodies.

but their will be no peace on earth until YAHSHUA RETURNS

Jesus was here in the beginning before the earth ever was.

YAHSHUA is our peace and our rest enter in and rest in peace

PRAYER CHANGES THINGS

IT CAN CAUSE MUDERERS TO BECOME SAINTS

IT CAN MAKE HOMOSEXUALS BECOME FAITHFUL HUSBANDS
IT CAN MAKE DRUG DEALERS INTO PREACHERS

AND IT CAN TAKE YOUR ANGER AND TURN IT INTO JOY

_Q_ 11-05-2005 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by YAHSHUA's son
PRAYER CHANGES THINGS

IT CAN CAUSE MUDERERS TO BECOME SAINTS

IT CAN MAKE HOMOSEXUALS BECOME FAITHFUL HUSBANDS
IT CAN MAKE DRUG DEALERS INTO PREACHERS

AND IT CAN TAKE YOUR ANGER AND TURN IT INTO JOY

Maybe you could spend more time praying and less ranting then.

YAHSHUA's son 11-07-2005 09:32 AM

oh one more rant it can cause hazers to become non hazers

YAHSHUA's son 11-07-2005 09:32 AM

oh one more rant it can cause hazers to become non hazers

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