Dude, you're awesome. Seriously, I bow to your detective skills.


And I would have rallied as well. Hell, I probably would have rallied earlier with some of his articles (which, as pointed out earlier, lack depth, insight, and are clearly writted according to his personal opnion). Another part of me is almost numb to this kind of editorial because we've all seen similar articles before. But good for a campus for finally doing something about it.

He and I wouldn't agree as to the meaning of "conservative", but that's for another thread.

Okay, you have certainly made your case though. This guy is a moron.

I would agree on the point that he is certainly a fundamentalist christian wacko, borderline facist, etc., but conservative... those are fightin' words. ;)

All hail valkyrie's detective work.

I'm still trying to figure out where Islam fits into his argument. Sounds like he's trying to find a boogey man.

Someone really needs to pull a Fred Durst on this dude and put pictures of his penis on the intraweb.

But he's a student journalist. Student journalists write stories with angles that no one has ever thought of before!!!! Student journalists know everything!

Even when he is speaking in generalities, you should never, never question a student journalist. He's very experienced in life and philosophy.

Shame on you all. His words were so original and throught-provoking! We should sit at his feet, looking up admiringly and soaking in his words of wisdom.

/sarcasm

I think this guy should expect to be criticized for writing this article. Obviously his writing skills are poor, and the content is unresearched and inflammatory. But why the criticism for being a Christian or a conservative?

Editor-in-chief Greek
 

From the second article Protest storms Harris Field
Posted: 08.30.2005
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Rebecca Heslin, Technician's editor-in-chief, said with this recent column, there was a lot of discussion on campus and Technician received both positive and negative feedback.

...and further down...

The first Greek male member to address the crowd was Jeff Skalka, president of the Interfraternity Council.

"It's a shame we had to come out because of these circumstances," Skalka said.

Pointing out that Heslin, a member of Zeta Tau Alpha , wore sunglasses similar to the ones described in Underwood's column, Skalka said the images of sorority women did not determine their character.

Skalka, like Anderson and Babb, also harped on the community service hours put in by NCSU sorority members in addition to other positives of the Greek community.

Heslin said prior to the protest, she was curious if organizers would give her the opportunity to speak, not only as the editor of Technician but also as a sorority member.

"As editor-in-chief, I accept the role of being held responsible for everything that's published in the newspaper," Heslin said. "I almost expected more of a chance to voice my opinion... I was not expecting to be called out."

Someone said that he was a liberal and I was showing what I consider to be evidence that he is not. I also think some of his quotes indicate some type of mental issues, but that's a story for another day.

Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"
 

Also from the second article.

Monday afternoon, Heslin [editor of Technician and a sorority member] visited Greek Life with a list of members from a Thefacebook.com group entitled "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes."

The list included approximately 49 sorority and fraternity members from NCSU, a number which has dwindled severely since Monday.

Skalka [president of the Interfraternity Council] publicly abhorred the groups and said that these group members encouraged stereotypes of Greek Life. He said all Greek Life members should "get out of that or get out of Greek Life."

Re: Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"
 

This is dumb.

Don't people realize that those groups are jokes?

From the original article's last paragraph.

My contention is not with sorority life. I'm worried about the girls who have nose-dived into sorority pop-culture to mask their insecurities.

The article may not have been as bad had Mr. Underwood been clear from the start with this point. He could (should?) have then gone into insecurities *in general* as they relate to college women. And perhaps college men too. *Then* he could make the point that some women - and men - may join a GLO (or any other organization) for *the wrong reasons*. (Or how ever he might want to go with the article.) Unfortunately, the article became an attack on sorority women.

If the topsider fits...
 

Apparently not since Mr. Skalka, NC State's IFC President, felt a need to address it [Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"] at the protest.

Re: Re: Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"
 

Maybe not (see Pimps & Ho's party thread). Whether or not the majority of non-greeks share Underwood's opinion remains to be seen (and maybe should be explored???).

I am glad that they protested, but sororities (and fraternities) can best prove him wrong by continuing to service the community and doing great things, like they have been doing. And I don't doubt that this will have some type of affect on rush, but any PNM who is truely interested in Greek life or a particular organization will do their homework and not let his voice be the sole opinion that they take into account

Re: Re: Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"
 

I agree.

Isn't it kind of like I can make fun of my mom, but if YOU do, I'm going to be pissed?

Because judging (Judge not, lest ye be judged) a group of women and calling them a "sorostitue" is not exactly 'Christian'. :rolleyes: