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AOIIalum 05-21-2005 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by ZetaPhi708
Yep i saw the originals when I was 10, 13 and 16 years of age. I am only 37yo now. LOL
You're a baby, then :D

chideltjen 05-21-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
The bigger question is HOW WAS HE EVEN ALIVE??? :) I think he was just so tied into the force that he had an abnormal ability to sustain life and health. So, I can see how he would still be feeling pain.
True... gotta factor in the "Force." But I wondered that about the CSI victim I saw...

About Oscar nods... McGregegar may get/should get SOME sort of nod. That guy is EVERYWHERE! They even showed a preview for ANOTHER movie he's in later this summer. And just think this is the same dude from Trainspotting!

Something that really bothered me... who the HELL is Siphadias? All I know is he ordered the clones and he was a Jedi that died 10 years ago. Was there a backstory that I missed and why was he never mentioned again? Is that all we needed to know? I was hoping that he would be mentioned in this movie... or hell, even show up. But nope!

ms_gwyn 05-22-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by chideltjen
Something that really bothered me... who the HELL is Siphadias? All I know is he ordered the clones and he was a Jedi that died 10 years ago. Was there a backstory that I missed and why was he never mentioned again? Is that all we needed to know? I was hoping that he would be mentioned in this movie... or hell, even show up. But nope!
I personally think Sifa Dyous (sp) is Darth Plagueis, Darth Sidious' mentor. But that is one girl's opinion, I will be reading the SW books now to get more background, there are books out there right now that are a part of the Sith Era....I believe the books go something like this:

Sith Era
Prequel Trilogy
Original Trilogy
New Jedi Order (?)
New Republic

something like that I don't have my bookcover so I can't really say.

I hope to find out my answer in the EU (expanded universe) of SW

astroAPhi 05-22-2005 01:16 AM

There's 2 theories on Syfo-Dias:

1. He was really Count Dooku using an existing Jedi Master's name. Remember, he was the one that recruited Jango Fett.
2. He was being manipulated by Sidious and/or Dooku and they killed him when they no longer had any use for him.

ms_gwyn, Palpatine has been after Anakin all this time. He used Count Dooku to start Anakin on his path. Dooku realizes this at the end, because he was supposed to be taken alive, but he also wasn't planning on Anakin kicking his ass and Palpatine telling him to kill him.

As for Anakin handling the pregnancy, I think he's more shocked as hell. Padme being pregnant means that they can't hide things for much longer. According to the book he really wants to leave the Jedi order, but I thought it came off in the movie as he wasn't quite ready to give it up. I mean, come on, you've been gone for 5 months and you find out your wife is pregnant? Talk about out of left field.

There were a few painful moments in the romance scenes ("Has love made you blind?"), but some of them were tons better. Padme confronting Anakin about what he's done is very emotional and very powerful. I'll agree though that they don't have the best on-screen chemistry. (But then again, I've always said that they should have ditched Portman and gone with Keira Knightley... Portman has had a bad attitude about the movies after the first one.)

ZetaPhi708 05-22-2005 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by AOIIalum
You're a baby, then :D
That is a compliment that I can deal with. Thank you so much!!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

ms_gwyn 05-22-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by astroAPhi

ms_gwyn, Palpatine has been after Anakin all this time. He used Count Dooku to start Anakin on his path. Dooku realizes this at the end, because he was supposed to be taken alive, but he also wasn't planning on Anakin kicking his ass and Palpatine telling him to kill him.

Yea I figured that out, I am reading the book right now, I wanted to wait until I saw the movie.....this is a really good novelization....and Dooku was surprised by Palpatine wanting him dead.

Heh.....gotta love evil people, they change up the plans all the time ;)

starang21 05-22-2005 06:50 PM

damn, anakin got messed up by obi wan.

AOIIBrandi 05-22-2005 10:04 PM

Can someone tell me what Padme's dying words were? I heard her name the babies and then she said something else, but neither me nor my husband can figure out what it was.

ms_gwyn 05-22-2005 10:46 PM

Something to the effect of:

I know there is still good in him....

Luke said the same thing

My theory is that Anakin and Padme are just so connected (I'm still reading the book, we'll see if my theory pans out) that Padme experienced Anakin's pain of the transformation, in addition to childbirth and turmoil of their confrontation, that it was too much for her, that she just "let go". Remember there was nothing medically wrong with her.

preciousjeni 05-22-2005 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
Something to the effect of:

I know there is still good in him....

Luke said the same thing

My theory is that Anakin and Padme are just so connected (I'm still reading the book, we'll see if my theory pans out) that Padme experienced Anakin's pain of the transformation, in addition to childbirth and turmoil of their confrontation, that it was too much for her, that she just "let go". Remember there was nothing medically wrong with her.

I thought she said something like "There's still hope" - maybe my mind was playing tricks on me because I was looking for a connection to the next episode.

Also, I was thinking that she died of heartbreak. She was a very willful woman so maybe she just gave up. But, I can totally get along with the idea that she and Anakin were connected to that extent.

ADPi Conniebama 05-22-2005 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni

At the end, I REALLY wanted to go watch the next three in a row to see all the new pieces that would make more sense to me.

That is what my husband and I are about to do. Well, we maybe only get through ANH tonight, but I feel like I need some questions answered. I mean I was only 6 when it came out the first time. (I may be the only person in history to fall asleep during that movie in the theater in (i think) '76)

I am not a Star Wars Fanatic but I do appreciate the movies and I have enjoyed them all.

ASUADPi 05-22-2005 11:17 PM

I just saw the movie for the second time and she did say something to the effect that there is still good in him, him being Anakin. Then she just died.

OMG I still cried this time seeing the movie. :)

ms_gwyn 05-22-2005 11:25 PM

Yea I have to watch them all again myself.....I started to watch TPM yesterday, but decided to drive to napa instead...fun times.

I enjoyed that movie and now I am going to appreciate more.

I will see ROTS again sometime this week....now if I can only convince my father to go with me, that would be great, we've always seen the films in the theater together, but he didn't like the last one....sigh

moe.ron 05-23-2005 02:18 AM

One thing that just popped into my head. Who's bright idea was it to let Luke keep his last name? That is the best way for Vader to figure out who Luke is.

ms_gwyn 05-23-2005 02:39 AM

thats kinda funny!


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