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It's clearly obvious that most people do not understand all of the efforts Greeks have taken to eliminate hazing.

However, I do feel that while it is a good thing to eliminate hazing some of our headquarters may have taken it a little too far just to please non-Greeks. I think the definition of hazing has gotten way out of control.

For example, I remember when I was the new member orientation chair I could not require them to memorize their new member info because it would be considered hazing to make someone feel like they had to do something they didn't want to. We were no longer able to name new member classes by the greek alphabet because we wouldn't want to haze them by labeling them and separating them from the rest of the chapter.

The result, I've seen a lot of women initiated into my chapter who didn't have a clue about our history or what Alpha Xi Delta really means. How can you convey what your sorority means and stands for to a new member who already thinks that she is and knows what it means to be a sister because she is already treated like she is a sister before she is even initiated.

(sorry if I rambled but this whole definition of hazing thing really bugs me.)

2. It is so sad that all of the good work Greeks do goes unnoticed. I think that it would be wonderful if everyone's headquarters got together and put together a major PR/marketing effort to inform the world how about what we really about.
One thing I would do if I was working at my headquarters would be to try to make sure that whenever a chapter has some sort of philanthropy event I would have headquarters helping to get the sorority's name in the media. Have the local news report on the event etc. Form some sort of grassroots effort to have the public support their local Greeks. Think about how much more of a difference our chapters could really make.

Apparently the GLOs are getting together for an "anti-hazing day" in Sept. 2005.

Hope they can make an impact.

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Originally posted by kddani
and then turns around and works nearly full time for the FOOD NETWORK reviewing cook offs and all that kind of stuff.

Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? And I still don't understand how he has such a good looking wife who allows him to get away with that.

I hear she drives an escalade.

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Originally posted by ZetaPhi708
Hey Ktsnake, do you know if the History Channel has that special that you mention on DVD? I would love to see it.

Also, MTV wants ratings and sensationalism with these "greek" shows. Maybe they should do a documentary about REAL fraternity/sorority life and the positive things that our GLOs do on campus' all across America.

I taped it, loaned it to one of my brothers, and he lost it.

Never checked on the DVD.

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Well, you're thinking worst case, I'm thinking best case :D

For example, there was a special on the History Channel about fraternities. Our chapter at Ole Miss (I'd put it on par with any top chapter of any group in the country) was represented there. They taped and interviewed our members. There was also another fraternity taped in that show (the kid ended up going with them [the fool]). Both groups, however were excellent representations of what fraternities SHOULD be.

I can think of several chapters of my organization that I certainly would not want on that type of show though.

I think a "Fraternity Life" using our Ole Miss chapter on MTV would not only be a great show, it'd go a long ways towards putting our best foot forward.

My husband and I taped it when it first came on. I thought it was great.

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Originally posted by ZetaPhi708
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Also, MTV wants ratings and sensationalism with these "greek" shows. Maybe they should do a documentary about REAL fraternity/sorority life and the positive things that our GLOs do on campus' all across America. [/B]

I don't think that MTV would do a show documenting the real side of greek life cause of their quest for ratings. I really did like the 1st sorority life, but comming from a GLO i took it with the perverbial grain of salt cause i knew what they were showing was only one side of the story. I wish that MTV would do shows showing good positive stories about volunteering and how greeks contribute to their campus and all the wonderful stuff, but i really don't think that this will happen cause they want rating and what brings in ratings is not the touchy feelly stuff that you are talking about.

Just my 2 cents/opinion.

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Originally posted by alfuzzxi
It's clearly obvious that most people do not understand all of the efforts Greeks have taken to eliminate hazing.

However, I do feel that while it is a good thing to eliminate hazing some of our headquarters may have taken it a little too far just to please non-Greeks. I think the definition of hazing has gotten way out of control.

For example, I remember when I was the new member orientation chair I could not require them to memorize their new member info because it would be considered hazing to make someone feel like they had to do something they didn't want to. We were no longer able to name new member classes by the greek alphabet because we wouldn't want to haze them by labeling them and separating them from the rest of the chapter.

The result, I've seen a lot of women initiated into my chapter who didn't have a clue about our history or what Alpha Xi Delta really means. How can you convey what your sorority means and stands for to a new member who already thinks that she is and knows what it means to be a sister because she is already treated like she is a sister before she is even initiated.

(sorry if I rambled but this whole definition of hazing thing really bugs me.)

2. It is so sad that all of the good work Greeks do goes unnoticed. I think that it would be wonderful if everyone's headquarters got together and put together a major PR/marketing effort to inform the world how about what we really about.
One thing I would do if I was working at my headquarters would be to try to make sure that whenever a chapter has some sort of philanthropy event I would have headquarters helping to get the sorority's name in the media. Have the local news report on the event etc. Form some sort of grassroots effort to have the public support their local Greeks. Think about how much more of a difference our chapters could really make.

To True For Many Of us!:(

Be a Member of a club or a Greek Organization. Learn or be a person that has no idea?

If for those that have been around, MTV, really shows Greeks in a Positive Life!:rolleyes:

When advice from GCers, stay the hell away from them, then it is good advice!

When did they ever show Us as Greeks in a good light?:eek:

What does Your GLO do to give back to The Community? A Lot, I am sure!

alfuzzxi,

I completely agree with everything you said.