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roqueemae 01-05-2005 11:33 AM

Good because courts are great fun!

Corsulian 01-06-2005 04:13 AM

We don't have little sister organizations--we do have a couple cliques of unaffiliated girls who are always at our house, but we just refer to them as 'groupies.'
Actual little sisters exist now only as part of Greek families. From the perspective of yours truly--a new fraternity member, a big sister is someone you have probably gotten to know decently well, as initiated earlier than you, and your big brother generally sets the whole thing up. Likewise, a girl's big sister might come to me sometime and ask if I'd like to be her big brother. Big sister/big brother revealings generally involve blindfolds, a series of clues, and all sorts of shots.

AOIIsilver 01-06-2005 10:07 AM

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Ballerina was a Pi Kappa Phi Rose the last 2 years. I don't know how different it is from what I did.
:)
Silver

MysticCat 01-06-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by exlurker
Just from a guy's perspective here, it's interesting to learn that Little Sisters are still a big deal on some campuses. That's not true everywhere, and in fact the NIC has stated in its "NIC Standards for NIC Member Fraternities," which are posted on its web site at http://www.nicindy.org that NIC member organizations must have as part of their national policies a requirement that"Fraternity-chapter women's auxiliary groups (i.e. "little sisters") are not allowed."
While we are not NIC (although we are IFC on some campuses), we have a similar policy. Little sister/auxilliary groups are forbidden.

We can have chapter sweethearts, but there can only be one chapter sweetheart at a time.

MysticCat 01-06-2005 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by AGDee
The primary reason that little sister orgs were put to rest had to do with court challenges of the "single sex" status of fraternities and sororities. We have to be cautious to maintain certain requirements to ensure that we can continue to exist as single sex organizations and those groups violated the requirements.
That's one of the primary reasons, for sure.

The other primary reason was/is risk management -- auxilliary groups extend chapter and national liability exposure.

icecoldsweet 05-17-2005 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by hugs_n_ladybugs
It's a big thing on my campus, so I was wondering about elsewhere... How many of you girls are also Lil' Sis's of a fraternity, and how did you become one? On my campus, for example, you must be voted in by the brothers of the fraternity.
Ummm i would like to correct you on a couple of your statements regarding Auxillary groups. They were not banned they were to release all ties to their respective organizations due to legal issues ( that is the really short version) They are not it illegal at all they are only illegal in this term saying it is illegal for any memeber of frat/sorority to participate in the inner workings of these groups meaning they cannot make these girls however these groups are allowed to exsist i know because i am an angel and this ruling took place in 1990 which was 15 years ago and i became one by ongoing a process and since someone is giving false information i need to say why the were disbanned. in 1989-90 there was a girl who was a sweetheart for a white fraternity and she felt she learned the same info as her big bros she protested and they allowed her to take the examination and they allowed her the right to enter to provent this from happening again they disbanned them all in 1990 But we are not ILLEGAL

PM_Mama00 05-17-2005 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by icecoldsweet
Ummm i would like to correct you on a couple of your statements regarding Auxillary groups. They were not banned they were to release all ties to their respective organizations due to legal issues ( that is the really short version) They are not it illegal at all they are only illegal in this term saying it is illegal for any memeber of frat/sorority to participate in the inner workings of these groups meaning they cannot make these girls however these groups are allowed to exsist i know because i am an angel and this ruling took place in 1990 which was 15 years ago and i became one by ongoing a process and since someone is giving false information i need to say why the were disbanned. in 1989-90 there was a girl who was a sweetheart for a white fraternity and she felt she learned the same info as her big bros she protested and they allowed her to take the examination and they allowed her the right to enter to provent this from happening again they disbanned them all in 1990 But we are not ILLEGAL
Wow. Punctuation really makes a post... as does capitalization. I only understand a tiny bit of this.

As I'm sure was said in this thread (I haven't gotten a chance to read the whole thing) NPC sororities prohibit their members to be little sisters of fraternity members. So yes, it is kind of banned and illegal.

PhoenixAzul 05-17-2005 11:32 AM

What I find odd or interesting if you will about my campus is that we have an official Brother chapter, every group does (except alpha sig, they are the 7th fraternity and there are only 6 sororities). However, we have never given big brothers or big sis's to either group.

tunatartare 05-17-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Wow. Punctuation really makes a post... as does capitalization. I only understand a tiny bit of this.

As I'm sure was said in this thread (I haven't gotten a chance to read the whole thing) NPC sororities prohibit their members to be little sisters of fraternity members. So yes, it is kind of banned and illegal.

Just as a question, what does it mean when a girl in an NPC sorority has XYZ Little Sister in her profile on AIM? (I saw this on a girl's profile whom I haven't spoken to since high school so it's not like I can ask her.

MysticCat 05-17-2005 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Wow. Punctuation really makes a post... as does capitalization. I only understand a tiny bit of this.
Use of complete sentences helps as well.

What little bit of the post I could follow seemed to be arguing that little sister groups are not "illegal." Illegal according to whom -- the government, a "big brother" org or a little sister's sorority -- isn't at all clear. The poster claims to know this because (1) she was in a little sister group and (2) she apparently has heard an urban legend of some fraternity that "had to" initate a little sister because she knew the same info as her "big brothers." As if learning some info and taking a test are the only criteria for initiation into a fraternity.

Okay, sure.

Glitter650 05-17-2005 01:28 PM

From the alpha Sigma Alpha website... and I'm 99% sure I could find the same thing at any other NPC org's website.



Auxiliary groups, commonly referred to as little sister and big brother groups, are inconsistent with the concept and philosophy of all National Panhellenic Conference (NPC) sororities and North-American Interfraternity Conference (NIC) fraternities. Their existence may very well jeopardize our status as single sex organizations.

Members of Alpha Sigma Alpha will decline to join fraternity auxiliary groups.

Big brother organizations are inappropriate to the mission and purpose of Alpha Sigma Alpha, therefore, chapters shall not establish men's auxiliary organizations or individual big brother relationships.

FloridaTish 05-17-2005 02:20 PM

A girl that I was good friends in high school was a little sister for a FIJI chapter in Georgia in the early 90's (90-92-ish). I hadn't spoken much to her after I went away to college, but at some point she just totally lost her marbles and developed a very bad reputation. She then tried to sue the fraternity for equal rights as a member of FIJI. It was really sad, but she was so desperate for attention.

Rio_Kohitsuji 05-17-2005 10:40 PM

I guess I'll go ahead and comment here along with ya'll :)

I'm a lil sis to a fraternity (won't way who) and a Sweetheart (duh ;)) to another. I have 2 lil bro's through my sorority's Lil Bro program and I love 'em!

Now, here at Rio lil bro/sis organization are a pretty big thing. Strange thing is, is that rush for lil's has a bigger turnout than our official rush for members. :rolleyes: :p I know that my sorority has had active Lil Bros since 1984 and have had no real trouble with them. I don't know if it's just here or anything but I know the sororities have had MUCH less trouble with our auxiallary groups than the fraternities.

Oh, just a side note, GLO's here do allow their lil bro/sis members to wear letters. However, each group has their own rules concerning it. (As in, with us we only let our guys wear the letters w/"lil bro" underneath them, or some groups only let them wear the letters in certain colors, etc)
--Kayla

BellaBerlee 05-18-2005 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by NutBrnHair
I was asked to be a Lambda Chi Alpha "Rush Girl!" (That was the trial period before becoming a Little Sister.) I said, "Thanks, but no thanks, I'm a Rush "Girl" for Chi Omega!

All of the fraternities at Mercer had well-organized Little Sister groups during the 1970s-80s. The had meetings, officers, wore the fraternity jersey, etc.

I know what little sisters are..but what exactly is a "rush girl"...someone to hang around their tent/house while they do rush? What do they exactly do, hand out drinks, snacks, tell them to go XYZ??

NutBrnHair 05-18-2005 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by BellaBerlee
I know what little sisters are..but what exactly is a "rush girl"...someone to hang around their tent/house while they do rush? What do they exactly do, hand out drinks, snacks, tell them to go XYZ??
Yes, that was the idea. Also, it seemed that many of the "Rush Girls" went on to be Little Sisters -- so I guess it was a trial period for that.


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