Re: Re: clarification on IG/PG rights
 

That is my reading. That stuff like letter shirts/jackets are restricted to those who are APO Brothers. Only members of IG/PG who are already APO Brothers can wear them.

I would also assume that APO-related t-shirts that would indicate strickly membership in APO are bared from IG/PG members. (ie 'generic' APO t-shirts) However, APO shirts such as conference t-shirts, APO event t-shirts or t-shirts that the IG/PG create that clearly indicated they are a IG/PG is ok.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Different Definitions
 

Yup. Even to the point of cutsey-ing it to "NIBbles". But I don't think either meaning of neophyte is in the dictionary and prophyte isn't in the dictionary at all.

Randy

no standard
 

In Region III, it is customary for a PG which is rechartering to refer to themselves as Blah Blah University PG, rather than Omega Alpha Alpha PG; however, that is not standard. I know that at least in Region IX, is it standard that a rechartering group calls themselves by their greek-letter designation.

Re: no standard
 

Really? I was under the impression that it was National Policy that PGs were to ONLY be refered to by their university, never by their future greek-letter designation. In fact, I thought there was something put forth at the last NatConv to clearify just that.

There was a resolution proposed, but it failed to pass. Therefore, there is still no standard.

I know when we were a PG/IG we could only wear "Alpha Phi Omega" written out when doing something as a group and we also had to have a button stating that we were a PG/IG group. Also, when refering to ourselves, we were the Howard University Petitioning/Interest/Prospect group of Alpha Phi Omega and not Zeta Phi. Have the rules changed, because I remember getting kicked out of a yahoogroup:mad: (still salty about that) arguing this issue?!?

News

The matter about what you can wear has not changed.

Apparently, the policy about how you would refer to yourselves (HU-PG vs. ZP-PG) is not policy, but prehaps is something that various from region to region. I know in my region, IG/PG are told they can not refer to themselves by their future greek-letter designation.

nothing has changed - except...
 

..that there is an official button saying "Petitioning Group" that can be ordered from the National Office. Sweetie81, those buttons didn't exist when you were a Petitioner. They came into existence after the New Orleans NatCon in 2002.

Being that I was a petitioner for Johnson C. Smith University, we too had to do the same thing. At our sectional conference we were given those pins that said "petitioning group", and we also could not say we were the Delta Phi chapter, but had to state that we were the JCSU petitioning group!

Hmm. I wonder how a T-shirt that said
"Once and Future Delta Phi Chapter" would have gone over during the Extension Process... (Worn with the PG button, of course). (Probably not well :( )

Wonder if it would be worth it to go back to the 2 inch Petitioning Pins? (Apparently by mistake the first time the National Office ordered Petitioning Pins, the came in *much* larger than expected.)

Randy

Except for the fact that nowhere on the official Petitioning Pin does it *say* the words "Petitioning Group" or "Petitioner." That's why there are Petitioning Group buttons available from the N.O.

Good point. No more than the pins worn by active members say brother anywhere.

Randy