Just FYI

When I was driving to work, I saw a car with the license plate KAPPAMN but was driven by a woman (the owner's wife or mother--I dunno). Just wanted to share that.

Anyhow, on usage of the letters, I well tell you upfront that I don't get overly picky about nonmembers using my letters as long as they don't plan to perp. My mother wore my shirt once (and it was on her driver's license photo until it was renewed). I loaned a lady friend my cardigan with the letters on it b/c she was cold.

Anyway, my point is this: All too often Greeks protect their letters to the point of foolish pride. Meaning that if using an item like an umbrella or a car with letters on them would pose a detriment to a non-greek (would get wet in the rain, can't use to car to race to the hospital to check on a dying friend or relative), then IMHO you are not protecting your letters, you are idolizing them. Please put principle over pride, and if your letters mean that much to you, please don't allow them to be placed on items were they could be "compromised", or leave nalia where others can get access to it.

My .25 cents.

RM

IF I WERE GOING TO TAKE A SHOWER, I WOULD HAVE BROUGHT A TOWEL OR MY OWN ROBE WITH MY TO THE RESTROOM BEACUSE I KNEW I WAS GOING TO BE WET(DUHHHH). BECAUSE HIS ROBE IS TABOO OFF LIMITS. I WOULD NOT WANT HIM TO DISRESPECT MY LETTERS (DST) AND I WOULD NEVER DISRESPECT HIS (Q-PSI-PHI).

AS FAR AS THE UMBRELLA OR BLANKET IS CONCERN, IF MY GRANDMOTHER WAS COLD AND MY BLANKET WAS THE ONLY WARM BLANKET IN THE HOUSE, THEN I WOULD WRAP HER IN IT AND GET HER SOME TEA.BECAUSE IF IT WEREN'T FOR HER I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE MONEY TO PLEDGE AND SHE PROBABLY BROUGHT THE BLANKET.
THE UMBRELLA SITUATION, IF MY MOTHER DIDN'T HAVE AN UNBRELLA AND HER AND I WERE TOGETHER, I BE DAMN IF I AM GOING TO SIT AND LET MY MOTHER GET WET AND CATCH A COLD. SHE MADE ME, SO DAMN THE MATERIALISTIC SHI***.!!!THAT'S MY MOM.

BUT IF IT WERE ANY ONE ELSE I WOULD GIVE THEM SEVERAL BLANKETS SO THEY WOULD KEEP WARM(LIKE MY MAN) AND I WOULD DRIVE THEM TO SHELTER IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A UMBRELLA. THEY WOULD THINK I DID IT OUT OF KINDNESS BUT I KNOW THE REAL REASON.

IN ALL THIS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR OWN HEART. AND ALLOW YOUR CONSCIOUS TO BE YOUR GUIDE.

ONE LOVE
QUEEN

Well, I have an OES lanyard in my car, and an emblem on the back of my car, but am I
"rainbowed" out? Nah. I went through Neo fever, bought a jacket, tee-shirt, and hat, and that was it. And I never wear the jacket (lawsuit pending), my locs are too big for the hat, and it sure ain't summertime yet! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

If she was just going from shower to room, no big deal, and if it's just those two, no big deal. I would never try to sport any Greek's gear when I'm not in that org.

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I'm a non greek, but those are my sentiments exactly... when the well being of any human being comes into play, all bets are off. I saw two women walking down stairs one greek and one not and the non-greek lady took a nasty fall and broke her arm. The greek took off her sweater which had her letters on it and made a sling for her friend to set the arm. Her sorors protested for a second but saw the urgency in her doing that and backed off. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

I also agree... and guess what? This "symbol worship" is unique to mostly YOUNGER BGLO members.

It used to be traditional that when a couple was engaged, the fraternity member would "pin" his fiance.. He would GIVE HER his fraternity pin! I own an Omega pin... I have also worn an Omega sweater IN PUBLIC on a college campus.

You can get as angry as you wish about somebody "perping" with your symbols, but if you touch that person, you might either get hurt or arrested...

I am devoted to Delta - have been for almost 25 years - but I do not worship our symbols.

I would make her take off my robe.

1) She should not be wearing my letters.
2) I would probably just want to see her butt naked. Yawl look so good coming out of the shower all wet and dripping.

Hey, I can tell you the truth, or I can lie to you. I prefer the truth.

MN

I understand the "symbol worship" point of view and it is a valid arguement. However, the bottom line is whatever it is that someone is trying to borrow belongs to ME. IT is MINE. I have the right to say "yes, you may borrow..." or "no, you may not borrow..." for no other reason than "because I said so." If you don't like it, you don't have to borrow anything from me. It's that simple.


RainMan mentioned needing to borrow a car to go to the hospital to check on a dying friend/relative. If we're close enough for you to fashion your mouth & vocal cords to ask me to borrow my car, then we're close enough for me to be at the hospital with you as part of your support system.

it's funny how we tend to keep certain traditions and let others go...

i agree with Brother RainMan and Soror Beejae.

i think we put the wrong things on pedestals.




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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BeeJae:
It used to be traditional that when a couple was engaged, the fraternity member would "pin" his fiance.. He would GIVE HER his fraternity pin! I own an Omega pin...

Pinning?!

Sho nuff!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

On that note, my girlfriend (before and after she became a Delta)always wore my Omega Psi Phi pendant. I was proud that she wore it as much as she was took pride in wearing it. Almost all of my chapter bruhs girlfriends possessed something that identified them as belonging to a Que. I guess that the worries about perping drives this attitude, but if my girl let me get wet rather than using her umbrella or let me be cold rather than use her blanket, or won't let me use her car because of a license plate/sticker, I'd have to tell her that her priorities were missplaced.

Hey, Doggy....

I Like your STYLE!!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/cool.gif

If he's my man, he can get ANYTHING I GOT!... and if he doesn't feel the same about me... he can "get ta steppin'"!




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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
Almost all of my chapter bruhs girlfriends possessed something that identified them as belonging to a Que . http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif ???

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Well, as a non-member I was in a situation with my sister-in-law who is a AKA.

It was raining really hard and we had to go to the store to get medicine for my infant son. I didn't have a raincoat or an umbrella, so she let me borrow one of the two AKA jackets that she had in her car. Before we left, I asked her did she feel comfortable with me wear the slicker, and she insisted that I wear it because she knew that I had no intention towards AKA. I was not trying to perp, I just didn't want to get soaked. I turned the slicker inside-out so all you could see was the green color. Plus it didn't have any other information on it but AKA and the AKA sheild. No line, year, line name or chapter information.

If it wasn't for the coat, I would have gotten drenched.

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[quote]Originally posted by mccoyred:

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Originally posted by DoggyStyle82: Almost all of my chapter bruhs girlfriends possessed something that identified them as belonging to a Que . http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif ???

McCoyRED: please accept my apologies on the terminology "belonging" (it was usedpositively). A less possessive phrase should be substituted such as "being loved by a Que", "being adored by a Que", .

Whooweee! Did I get a myriad of responses or what? Well, I got so many, I gotta address the folx one at a time.

BeeJae: Thank you for seeing where I was coming from on this. I thought I was the only one who felt this 'nalia wearing issue was being taken to extremes. Oh BTW, your DeltaNet website is great. I have peeked in there on occasion over the past 4 years. Keep up the good work.

MidwestDiva, DoggyStyle, and others: Ditto. Thanks for your support on this issue.

MandingoNupe: In response to your post on you not letting your girl wear your letters for two reasons:

1. WHO CARES?
2. (OTOH) I feel ya on that one. But that's why you ask her to come over to you with you wearin' your robe and you wrap her up in it--so that both of you are "wearin'" the same robe. WHOO! I'm gettin' flashbacks up in heah! Don't make me get back to my old self. Ima havta call up one of my old girlfriends and hook up, for "old times" sake http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif *LOL*

12dn94dst:
I am glad you see where I was coming from
on the issue. You are right that you do not have to share anything with anyone. However (hypothetically) http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif, if I was in a bind and needed something from you and your not sharing something would be more to my detriment then benefit, then I would have to say that you are/were a lousy friend and that your priorities are seriously misaligned. Remember: principle over pride.

Thanks again for your support. I am gone.

RM