Honestly, I know from experience that this would just increase the behavior in question. When groups on this campus were placed on social probation, they would just end up throwing their own parties or "co-sponsoring" parties at fraternity houses. If you're looking to decrease the amount of illegal parties, cutting out the legal ones is not going to do it.

Honestly, there is not much to do at this point except pull the charter or do a "weeding out" -- which may not address the problem and will effectively kill off the chapter at many schools anyway. I agree with 33girl that it sounds like one of those cases where the national HQ is talking out of both sides of its mouth and enforcing policies differently for big successful chapters versus smaller ones, and it sounds like the chapter has picked up on this and knows that nothing really bad will end up happening to them as long as they keep bringing in money/prestige/whatever it is that HQ is keeping them open for.

James- to answer your question (Sheila and I know enough to put two and two together and know what chapter and school this is, but it doesn't need to be mentioned)- from what I understand (i'm good friends with a fraternity advisor from that school), this is the culture of the campus. A lot of kids live in off campus housing ( much like at my school). The campus cops can't do anything about it. And Sheila's right, again, that the city cops have much bigger fish to fry than busting up some parties.

Also from what I understand of this school's greek system, it's kinda at odds with the administration. Actually, most of the greek systems in the area have the same sort of relationship with their schools.

I'm very surprised that the GLO's HQ is so reluctant to pull their charter. They're a huge risk management risk. Just because they do some good stuff and are a "strong" group doesn't mean that they're not opening up a whole lot of liability risks.

Usually its the same person calling the cops anyhow (if its the area I believe it is). The only reason why he calls anyway, is because the students dislike him...

The campus police will only show if the city police call them which never happens unless you do not cooperate (if you call the campus police they will call the city police becuase it's out of their area).

So how Old Was This Dead Thread? Da?

Why was it even brought up?

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Sorry, but if a need, then do it if not, let it lay to rest.