I think that we can all agree to disagree. But one thing that I don't think that I heard anyone say, was that thier way was better, or that their chapter or org. was better than anyone elses. While for me KAPsi, is the greatest fraternity ever founded,(and this is true), for an Omega his is, for a Sigma, his is. You get my point? No one is better than the other, and there are so many different things that go on in BGLOs as opposed to OTHER fraternities and sorrorities. Just becuase we do something all the time, doesn't make it right for your organization.

I simply pointed out the fact that so few people knew the grip for that org. and it simply struck me as funy. I am just silly like that. But I know that a few of my fellow D9ers would feel the same way.

Manders, if you are ever in the DC area, you can put me in the Kut, and I will take 3 for your org.

Peace and Luv

MN

You're right. No one did come flat out and say my way is better but people did say things like:

Manders, maybe a good thing for your chapter would be to have a ritual program, reminding members of the importance of ritual,


I wasn't laughing....just smirking. I find it very intriguing to see that 2 out 80 people know their organization's handshake


Just little comments that came out like "wow, I can't believe you guys do it this way and not our way...you should work on that"

I'm not trying to be a b**ch here. I just want respect and will equally give it.

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif Mandingo...i was laughing my behind off....

i see this is a touchy subject, so i will keep it brief.

handshakes and grips should also be practiced even if you know your sorors or your frats. THAT IS THE WAY TO WEED OUT THE PERPS!!!

when you receive visiting members into your chapter, there should never be a problem with your grip. that reflects upon you and how you learned in your whole process. i could never imagine going to visit a chapter and someone beginning to grip me and me not coming correct. it is unspeakable (especially in BGLO's)

also gripping in BGLO's is as common as blinking an eye. now why you see a Que grip his bruh or a Kappa, Alpha or and Iota grip their "bruhs" that means they are proud as hell to be members in that fraternity. it means you share the common grounds and crossed the burning sands.

it brings tears to my eyes!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

in my sorority (Delta Sigma Theta)the grip is not a challenge. it should only be done with persons you know to be a member, not suspect to be a member. that's more ammo to perp.

That brings up another point. I hear NPHC members talk about perps quite a bit. I know it's been talked about on the board before, but Is it that big of a problem? I've not heard of anyone having to deal with this in any of the fraternities on my campus. It brings to mind "Road Trip" when they go to that house to get a meal and place to stay because the smart guy knows their grip. Then they realized they goofed once they get into the dining room.



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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

Please everyone remember that BGLO's and GLO's do different things and have different practices. What is right for one is not necessarily for another

I don't think it's much of a difference between right and wrong with each org., but more of what is more important and less important to them. Whether its grips, songs, steps, or mottos, everyone puts different values and pride towards each one. Maybe it would be great if we all agreed that handshakes have a strong meaning in our orgs., but it's obviously not the case. So, good for you if it is, and no big woop if it isn't. I'm sure everyone has something special and bonding elsewhere between it's fellow members.

- AXPAlum

MandingoNupe--at first I wanted to laugh, but then I just shook my head. Even if your organization (ANY organization) doesn't use your grip, shake, etc. all the time, don't you have respect enough for your ritual to at least KNOW it? Do those who don't know it not care? That's what I shook my head at.

in regards to perps being a big deal, it is. for a number of reasons, bglo have lots of problems with people perping. my guess would be that everyone wants to be a part of something. it is a great feeling to be greeted by a soror that you have never met. just knowing you have Delta in common makes you similar in at least one way.

I assume the feeling is the same for all GLOs when we meet someone else from the same org, it's a great feeling. I just don't know why someone would pretend to be in an org, when it really wouldn't be that hard for them to get caught, unless somehow, through a friend, family member, or some bitter ex-member, they knew all of the secrets, even the initiation ritual. Maybe Fred Hatchett and his band of hooligans go around telling the secrets of their former GLO http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

i know this is off topic, but I was LMAO in "road trip" when they saw it was an "all Black Fratenity"

In the Movie "Road Trip"....the bruhz playing the fraternity are actually ALPHAs from Clark-Atlanta University, including the little person...whose name is Calvin!

They are really cool bruhz in person!

06,

I am,

The Ice Cold Kreator

Manders, I tend to agree with Alumnus who cares. I dont think its really that big of a deal that most of your chapter doesnt know your grip. Really, its not my place to say. Its just something nice to greet(close bond)
other brothers, in my case, on roadtrips or at convention.

Kevin
Beta Theta Pi

Corbin, I think you and others will get a better understanding if you read the topic "But Why Are NPHC Groups So Different???"


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Director #2
LMAC
Spr 99

[This message has been edited by DirectorDST99 (edited September 22, 2000).]

Hey!

I'm not touching the acronym situation, just wanted to add a Masonic tidbit.

OES members grip each other, but we do not grip our Mason brothers (if you're OES, you know what I mean). I have been "challenged" (I'm a toddler in the org) while in 'nalia, at a store, and at church. I just expect it everywhere. When it's meeting time, you "greet" other sisters. It's pretty universal, and I think beyond race, as well. I don't know, however, because I haven't met any Non-Black OEs members yet. I look forward to the dialogue, though!