Re: Auburn Numbers
 

I think that you need to recheck your spreadsheet because AOII has 55 members on that press release.

Re: Re: Auburn Numbers
 

IT's not the spreadsheet Ineed to fix, it's my handwriting! I corrected it in the original post. Thanks-don't want anyone to panic for no reason!:)

Re: Re: Re: Auburn Numbers
 

And here I thought that I was the only one who did that. ;)

There were around 1060 or 1065 signed up, but not all of those showed up to the first round.

Because girls have vaginas and boys have penises. Honestly, males and females just look at things like this differerently. That's the only reason there is.

See, I figured that not all actually showed up. But if they did, 79% placement of all is pretty good I think. I mean 90% of the ones that went to pref got bids and that was before snapping. So it could be much higher.

I just feel really bad for the girls at UGA. I've read that thread and there is NO reason why half the chapters should not have made quota. That is silly. The ONLY reason I can see for this is if the sororities were cutting all the same girls. EVEN THEN, they should have the common sense to look at percentages every day and think "Wow! These five good groups have crappy returns. Let see if they'd like to invite back these girls that got no or few invites." Now I definitely don't want to have to invite members we hated. But if we cut girls because we HAD to cut SOMEBODY that day, well hell, invite them back!

I know for a fact AOII took 55 because I am very good friends with the Delta Delta Chapter Adviser...and she I spoke earlier this week. :)

A lot probably had to do with the same groups competing for the same girls and the same girls competing for a top sorority. I'm betting a lot of them would rather be in no sorority than a less than par one.

Perhaps the PNMs did not "play the game" right??? I know at Ole Miss they are told to maximize their potential....so if a potential new member doesn't play the game she cannot be ensured a bid and if these girls are "suiciding" one house and not even ranking their houses on the last night....that could ruin their chances of getting a bid anywhere....just my thoughts.

I like to think there is no such thing as "The BEST sorority" just the best sorority for you!. But I live in lala land where men are sensitive and I have big boobs.....;)

Re: Auburn Numbers
 

Every group except one snapped up to 55 immediately after the computer ran the bid lists--before Bid Day. The girls who were snapped will never know they were unless someone tells them (and not many know) or unless they didn't attend prefs at the house that snapped them.

Well, that's it right there. At the big schools, not only are many sororities competing for the same girls but also the houses with the best returns from the last 3 years are required to cut the most girls after first rounds--whether they want to or not. I have no idea how the sororities manage that cutting and factoring in the number of girls that might cut them because at those schools, the sororities cut before they see who's cut them.

Could this be the problem? If the girls are cutting AND the sororities are cutting at the same time, couldn't that result in some sororities actually releasing more women than necessary?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE fan of enforcing the use of release figures. But, do it so it maximizes the PNMs chances of getting bids. Thank heavens for snaps :)

Sororities release first and then the girls get their results and cut from what they have left and it's like someone expects the sororities to be clairvoyant. ABC might love these 3 girls from Atlanta and have no idea that everyone else does too and that these girls will be cutting them...in the meantime, ABC releases 3 more girls they love and who would come back to them because they're required to release so many.

Re: Auburn Numbers
 

You are sooo not geeky... If so, I am also guilty...

"In a whisper... you might want to recheck the excel... everyone took 55... except... Zeta-56, Pi Phi-50, Tri Delta-54 and AXiD-? (according to my excel)"

I know Pi Phi and Tri Delta already snapped to 55... And an AXiD mentioned they had snapped or COB'd additional NMs.

On a side note... Someone mentioned return rates... Pi Phi was hurt this rush at Auburn due to having to cut... they are one of the three largest chapters on campus with a 90+% return rate for the past several years... they felt they had to release way too many PNMs... Though, I am not one to make an excuse... I cannot remember a time they have not made quota.

Quick fact: (if you can follow my gibberish)... for the last three years the largest chapter from the previous school year at MSU, has missed quota, the following year during formal recruitment... (it has been a different chapter each year). Everyone is screaming about the new release figures... though they appear to serve their purpose... All six chapters at MSU are about the same size...