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kddani 07-15-2004 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by _Q_
33girl, I PM'ed you. Essentially, my original username may have been misleading since I'm not really part of a sorority any more. One user expressed concerns about this, so I agreed to use something else. As far as the National Probation, nothing that exciting - just repeated conflicts.
I do thank you for changing your username, however you did neglect to tell me that you were put on National Probation. You could've been honest with me.

One does not get put on NP for just repeated "conflicts" unless conflicts are fights or something. You get put on for not making grades, not meeting financial obligations, or problematic behavior.

valkyrie 07-15-2004 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
One does not get put on NP for just repeated "conflicts" unless conflicts are fights or something. You get put on for not making grades, not meeting financial obligations, or problematic behavior.
What qualifies as problematic behavior? I'm sure that could be interpreted quite broadly.

CASIGKAP 07-15-2004 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
I do thank you for changing your username, however you did neglect to tell me that you were put on National Probation. You could've been honest with me.

One does not get put on NP for just repeated "conflicts" unless conflicts are fights or something. You get put on for not making grades, not meeting financial obligations, or problematic behavior.

I'm now sticking my nose where it doesn't belong.
Does it really matter why she was put on probation? At this point, it's water under the bridge. It feels like people are trying to punish others for mistakes they have made. Instead of criticizing and having a "holier than thou" attitude towards a person, why don't we just let it go and move on?

In regards to my earlier post, I've already PM'd _Q_ regarding it so don't try to use it against me & call me a hypocrite. I'm better informed now than I was then.

kddani 07-15-2004 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
What qualifies as problematic behavior? I'm sure that could be interpreted quite broadly.
I don't remember the exact terminology, that's why I just phrased it that way. I'm sure it's similar to all the other NPC groups.

kddani 07-15-2004 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by CASIGKAP
I'm now sticking my nose where it doesn't belong.
Does it really matter why she was put on probation? At this point, it's water under the bridge. It feels like people are trying to punish others for mistakes they have made. Instead of criticizing and having a "holier than thou" attitude towards a person, why don't we just let it go and move on?

Yes, it's water on the bridge, but the way it's said makes it seem like NP is just something casual, and that's not the case. Who's trying to punish anyone? I'm upset as well because this person wasn't really truthful with me.

CASIGKAP 07-15-2004 06:24 PM

I can understand that. Especially if it's someone you know personally or are really close to.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-15-2004 06:29 PM

I think that Q has made some interesting points. Sorority life is not for everyone. I'm sorry that being in a sorority didn't work out for you, Q.

CASIGKAP 07-15-2004 06:49 PM

Sorority life isn't for everyone.

It's funny to realize that people are worried that they will wind up in a different sorority/ftraternity than their friends. Or that some will wind up GDI's.

There have been conflicts in my sorority where a few gals chose not to go alum. For them, after so many years of sorority, it wasn't all they thought & hoped it would be. Ultimately, they'd rather go their own way rather than become alum. It's a sad situation for everyone involved but you have to respect the decision made by these individuals. Only they know what's good for them.

kddani 07-15-2004 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by CASIGKAP
[COLOR=sienna]Sorority life isn't for everyone.
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Very very true.

_Q_ 07-15-2004 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
Yes, it's water on the bridge, but the way it's said makes it seem like NP is just something casual, and that's not the case. Who's trying to punish anyone? I'm upset as well because this person wasn't really truthful with me.
Well, realistically, I was placed on NP and then resigned rather than trying to return. So telling you that I was initiated and then left seems quite accurate. At the time we PM'ed, I didn't feel like talking about the NP. However, I've since changed my mind. Had I been interested in deceiving you, it wouldn't really have made sense for me to post about it on a widely read forum.

As other posters have pointed out, "behavioral issues" is a rather large bucket, and the term "repeated conflicts" seems like it could reasonably fit into it. YMMV

_Q_ 07-15-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by CASIGKAP
I can understand that. Especially if it's someone you know personally or are really close to.
And that's just it. kddani and I are strangers who have exchanged a few PMs about why I didn't come over to the KD board and introduce myself. We ultimately agreed that since I was no longer a KD, I'd use a different screen name. Had we known each other, I might have chosen to discuss my situation, but at the time, I didn't care to.

Shelacious 07-15-2004 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by CASIGKAP
Sorority life isn't for everyone.
This is the truest statement. I do think there's a GLO home for most women between NPC, Locals, Professional, MCGLO, NPHC and then the individual organizations that make up each of these. Still, it's not for everyone. One wise Sorority sister once told me that every friend will not make a good Soror. I have seen this play out time and time again. A Sorority, by virtue of being a sisterhood at its core, has certain "group think" elements, no matter how lax or informal. I think "most" women will find a home that fits them, as just being a part of society requires a bit of "group think." However, it doesn't mean that every person is a good fit for my Sorority.

greencat 07-15-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Personality and Greek Life
 
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Originally posted by _Q_
At a previous school, I was in a sorority and it wasn't the best experience. The other members weren't bad people; it just wasn't a good fit for me.

It seems like some personalities are more compatible with Greek life than others. This isn't a slam, just a neutral statement. For example, there was one thread that talked about what exactly members were going to wear for Rush (and in some cases, how they had to decorate their rooms). To me, this seems strange - why would people want to expend time and money on something like this? To many GC'ers, it probably makes perfect sense.

Would it be good to help PNMs understand up front whether Greek life really is for them? It seems like there are a number of members and pledges who end up dropping, so I'm not alone. For example, if you'd resent mandatory meetings or occasionally being told how to dress, sorority life may not be for you.

Um, I think that's why you go through rush and pledging... to determine if it's right for you.

erica812 07-15-2004 08:01 PM

Here's another thought...A sorority might be a wonderful fit, but the sorority life might not be! I rushed as a freshman because I loved everything that I knew about sororities. I had wanted to be in one long before I went to college! I loved the idea of late nights with wonderful friends, super-tight friendships that last forever, community service, sharing secrets, wearing pretty sweatshirts (I know it sounds silly), seeing sisters everywhere you go, being part of something with a long, traditional history, etc. However, as I came to understand the "Greek climate" on my campus and as I went through rush, I started getting this queasy feeling in my stomach. On paper, I loved every sorority! But, in the real-life situation of my campus, I knew I fit better into other aspects of campus life than I did into Greek Life. The sororities must have seen it too because I was cut from all but one (out of four chapters). I declined my bid because by that time I began to see that the organizations that I was already involved with (we had deferred rush) were meeting many of the expectations that I had of a sorority (except for the pretty sweatshirt part;) ).

Fortunately, I found Beta Sigma Phi, so I could have everything that I wanted from a sorority without having to go against who I was as a college student.

I agree with "Q" that personality has a lot to do with the "fit," and personal needs come into play as well. I have been involved with Martial Arts for ten years. I love everything about training, but a lot of people see the bowing and yelling and saying "sir" or "ma'am" as weird and even cultish. While I love the discipline and intense workouts, other people see these aspects of training to be excessive or strange. It's all about what you need and what you like.

Erica

AGDee 07-15-2004 10:36 PM

I tend to think that there are "joiners" and "non-joiners" in general throughout life. The Joiners end up in organizations and the Non-Joiners don't. The Joiners volunteer to coach or be a cub scout leader, or just help with fund raising for an org, etc. once they have kids, the Non-Joiners don't. I definitely know people who have never belonged to any organization of any type and pretty much scorn the idea. I know more (because I'm a Joiner) who are Joiners and get involved in everything that they can. Over time, you will see the same parents involved in PTA/O, Scouts, rec sports, etc. It's all the same ones.

Different strokes for different folks! Isn't it great that there are orgs for the Joiners to join?

Dee


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