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Love_Spell_6 05-12-2004 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by enlightenment06

However, I ask the question, who are "they?" Daniel Pearl was killed in Pakistan if I'm not mistaken. Whenever any of us speak of "they," who are "they?"

and "terrorists" is not an acceptable answer because it is too vague

Here goes another Politically INcorrect answer:
The "they" are those crazed Muslims..you know..the folx that said Praise be to Allah when they rammed themselves into the Twin Towers...

The above comments are the sole view of Love_Spell_6 and do not reflect the majority of GCers :p

Rudey 05-12-2004 03:26 PM

The same "they" that flew into the twin towers, the same "they" that cut the throat of Daniel Pearl, the same "they" that cut off the head of Nick Berg.

That was a dumb and irrelevant question.

-Rudey

James 05-12-2004 03:29 PM

Well, when they shoot at us they become the enemy.

But your point is taken, we should avoid generalizing entire populations in to the enemy.

Quote:

Originally posted by enlightenment06
I agree with your point that Berg's murderers probably were already murderers, as opposed to being created solely by the Iraqi prisoner abuse and torture photos.

However, I ask the question, who are "they?" Daniel Pearl was killed in Pakistan if I'm not mistaken. Whenever any of us speak of "they," who are "they?"

and "terrorists" is not an acceptable answer because it is too vague


moe.ron 05-12-2004 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The same "they" that flew into the twin towers, the same "they" that cut the throat of Daniel Pearl, the same "they" that cut off the head of Nick Berg.

That was a dumb and irrelevant question.

-Rudey

Egyptian and Saudi Arabian Muslim Extremists
Pakistani Muslim Extremists

Rudey 05-12-2004 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Egyptian and Saudi Arabian Muslim Extremists
Pakistani Muslim Extremists

I would say terrorists.

Whether they were Muslim or their nationalities didn't factor in and extremist and militant are nice terms often used for Terrorist.

Whatever point your post wanted to get across was lost.

-Rudey

moe.ron 05-12-2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I would say terrorists.

Whether they were Muslim or their nationalities didn't factor in and extremist and militant are nice terms often used for Terrorist.

Whatever point your post wanted to get across was lost.

-Rudey

Just wanted to say that all of this extremism and terrorism lead to one house, the House of Saud.

Rudey 05-12-2004 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Just wanted to say that all of this extremism and terrorism lead to one house, the House of Saud.
Hey, I just straightened the calculator on my desk. That's about as irrelevant to the topic as anything else and oh yeah, it had no connection to what I said previously.

-Rudey
--Can you sense the sarcasm?

moe.ron 05-12-2004 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Hey, I just straightened the calculator on my desk. That's about as irrelevant to the topic as anything else and oh yeah, it had no connection to what I said previously.

-Rudey
--Can you sense the sarcasm?

No.

DZHBrown 05-12-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by enlightenment06
I agree with your point that Berg's murderers probably were already murderers, as opposed to being created solely by the Iraqi prisoner abuse and torture photos.

However, I ask the question, who are "they?" Daniel Pearl was killed in Pakistan if I'm not mistaken. Whenever any of us speak of "they," who are "they?"

and "terrorists" is not an acceptable answer because it is too vague

I actually thought about that while I was typing it, but I figured most of us kind of knew who "they" were. Terrorists, in my opinion, is a perfectly acceptable answer because it's true. I agree with what Rudey has already said.

AXO Alum 05-12-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Hey, I just straightened the calculator on my desk. That's about as irrelevant to the topic as anything else and oh yeah, it had no connection to what I said previously.

-Rudey
--Can you sense the sarcasm?

OMG - not that I am weighing in on this against moe.ron -- I just had to LMAO at this quote -- you are too funny Rudey :D

madmax 05-12-2004 05:33 PM

Nick Berg went to Cornell. Does anyone know if he was in a fraternity?

starang21 05-12-2004 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
I agree that they don't need an excuse, but that's no reason to give them one. It made them feel more justified in doing what they did.
i don't think so. these people are terrorists, as if they thinking logically and coherently was one of their good points. justification is probably isn't something they need to commit these acts.

Rudey 05-12-2004 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by madmax
Nick Berg went to Cornell. Does anyone know if he was in a fraternity?
"Berg took college classes at Cornell, Drexel, the
University of Pennsylvania and the University of Oklahoma, though he never earned a degree. He helped set up electronics equipment at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia in 2000. He even made several trips to Third World countries; in Ghana, he taught villagers how to make bricks, and returned emaciated because he gave away most of his food, his father said. "

Also he was a man of faith, coincidentally the same faith as Daniel Pearl: Berg's father said his son was a practicing Jew and that ``there's a better chance than not'' that his captors knew it. ``If there was any doubt that they were going to kill him, that probably clinched it, I'm guessing,'' he said.

-Rudey

James 05-12-2004 09:41 PM

You know . .. this whole Hating the Jews thing is sooo 1940. you think people would move on by now. There are so many people we can hate for new and valid reasons that we don't need to hold onto centuries old stereotypes.

norcalchick 05-12-2004 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Why isn't there global outrage over this around the world?

Why don't the Imams and Arab rulers say more?

-Rudey
--Because we are infidels to them

i was watching cnbc (i think) this morning and they were saying that there wasn't anything said about Berg in the Iraqi newspapers or websites. the major topic in thier newspapers was "the doctors are worried about Saudam Hussin's (sp?) health"


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