Because if the Zionist Jews (fundamentalists like Ashcroft and Osama) create a genocide it's all ok. :rolleyes:

Illegal? Boy don't throw around words you don't know.

And they are not defending their homes and families but hey nutjob think what you want.

-Rudey

So now you're against Zionist Jews? So now you don't know what the word genocide is? Boy take the letters out of your signature because you don't want to shame your entire fraternity when Rudey makes you look like a jackass.

-Rudey

Too late.

I know. I always feel bad when that happens. Because I wonder if and when one of their brothers will intervene and say "Hey stfu...you're making us look bad."

-Rudey

When have Jews created a genocide? And do you know what a genocide actually is?

The current and proposed actions of Zionists against Palestineans (basically to wipe them out) constitutes the start of a genocide. Hitler didnt start with killing Jews right away, neither did the Zionists start killing Palestinians right away. But their actions in dealing with Palestineans are beginning to mirror the actions of Nazi Germany in dealing with Jews.

Little boy I believe your family was involved with an awful genocide of chechans. It resembled something similar to Nazi Germany in dealing with Jews.

-Rudey
--Russ I hope you can handle your own.

First, your use of the word "Zionist" as a prejoritive is offensive. Second, your comparison of Israel with Nazi Germany is not only off base, and without any legitimate basis, but it is even more offensive.

Israel is not attempting, nor has it ever attempted to wipe out Palestinians. The current conflict is low intensity. It would have to be dramatically increased to even present the possibility of genocide.

But put yourself in Israel's shoes. The groups that they are fighting, like Hezbolah and Islamic Jihad, won't stop fighting. Israel has said that they will stop when these radical Palestinian groups stop. The radical Palestinian groups have said that they will stop when Israel ceases to exist, and when everyone in Israel + Palestine lives under a Taliban like rule.

It is Hezbolah and Islamic Jihad who actually want Genocide. Under these conditions, Israel is actually very restrained.

Put yourself in the shoes of the Palestineans: they were promised their own nation while under British rule following the downfall of the Ottoman Empire.
Jewish persons from the US and Europe following the political movement of Zionism began immigrating to Palestine (a process stepped up and supported by European governments after Hitler's genocide against the Jews) and in 1947 declared themselves to be a nation.

If your homeland was suddenly declared to be the homeland of foreigners- would you not hold resentment and declare war until they leave?

You obviously know nothing. You know nothing about the land or the history. Just another little foreigner ignorant to anything outside of the cornfields. In fact you are so damn ignorant, you don't even have the manners to keep your stupid side tracking and lies out of a thread that has nothing to do with them.

-Rudey

They were given that nation. Israel (and not Palestine) was then invaded. Under international law, Palestine no longer has the right to exist because all of the land that Israel seized beyond the 1948 borders, was seized while defending Israel from a foreign attack, of which Palestine was a part.

I suggest that you take a class on the Jewish Diaspora. You're view will change. Particularly with regard to presenting Jews as foreign to that land.

Can one of the moderators please move this moron's discussion on Israel to one of the Israel threads so I can rip him there in a more appropriate manner?

-Rudey

Do me a favor: stop now. Every part of this is wrong.

Alright I'll bite... what is wrong about it? Other than his admittedly misguided understanding of the social-political motivators behind the Jewish settlement in Palestine....

The statement about the feelings of the people of Palestine, and one possible motivation behind the continuing opposition to a Jewish state doesn't seem wrong and face value... just over simplified.

Rudey -> commence frothing at mouth rant :rolleyes: