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AXJules 04-03-2004 08:23 PM

Ok I swore I was not going to jump into this, but...
I say 'gay' all the time, 'cept I write it "ghey". Obivously I know what it sounds like, but too bad...I use the word gay as in, "They were dancing gaily around....or Everyone is happy and gay." That conjures up an image of really cheesy nerdy stuff.....which is my intention and why I write "ghey" instead of 'gay'. And actually, if you think about it, I think that might be what a lot of people mean by it.....seriously now, how can something act like a homosexual? If I say that someone's joke is gay, I don' tmean it's somehting a gay person would say, I mean it's cheesy or horrible.

I know what I mean, I don't need to explain myself, but I hope you all can see where I'm coming from.

Rudey 04-03-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Ok I swore I was not going to jump into this, but...
I say 'gay' all the time, 'cept I write it "ghey". Obivously I know what it sounds like, but too bad...I use the word gay as in, "They were dancing gaily around....or Everyone is happy and gay." That conjures up an image of really cheesy nerdy stuff.....which is my intention and why I write "ghey" instead of 'gay'. And actually, if you think about it, I think that might be what a lot of people mean by it.....seriously now, how can something act like a homosexual? If I say that someone's joke is gay, I don' tmean it's somehting a gay person would say, I mean it's cheesy or horrible.

I know what I mean, I don't need to explain myself, but I hope you all can see where I'm coming from.

Dawg I get where you're coming from. For example the guys driving the Jetta near me are gay...ghey..GAY...Gay. Right now I'm listening to Kasey Chambers...she sings a song asking whether she's pretty enough. That's probably gay.

-Rudey

decadence 04-03-2004 08:40 PM

Ummmm was that serious??
 
Okay, you know I have *not* followed your posts on this board which use the word "ghey" sic and commented on them. :D. But since this is a post talking about your use of it; it's fair game? We won't agree, I just want to take the opportunity to give my thoughts.
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I use the word gay as in, "They were dancing gaily around....or Everyone is happy and gay." That conjures up an image of really cheesy nerdy stuff.....which is my intention and why I write "ghey" instead of 'gay'. And actually, if you think about it, I think that might be what a lot of people mean by it
Okay, the word 'gay' has changed over the years; the original meaning is archaic and nobody today uses it in that sense and everyone (I thought) knows that. Your usage comes across to me anyway as using it simply to describe things in a derogatory fashion not some social comment.
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.....seriously now, how can something act like a homosexual?
A person can act in a camp way attributed to effeminate or homosexual individuals yes, but a 'thing' cannot. Precisely why it does not make sense to refer to a 'thing' in such a way! But aside from that someone (a section of society) is on the receiving end of the practice of using the term in that way also.
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If I say that someone's joke is gay, I don' tmean it's somehting a gay person would say, I mean it's cheesy or horrible.
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honeychile 04-03-2004 08:42 PM

Good thread!!

Many of the words mentioned truly offend me. Go ahead and say them in front of me, but I'm mentally deducting IQ and/or Class points from the speaker as I hear them.

G*D* and any other misuse of the Lord's name are my worst nightmares!

There are correct words for male & female anatomy; educated people should learn to use them properly. Misuse indicates a wasted mind. Same goes for gay, retard, retarded, ghetto, and any I've forgotten.

There's really no one so perfect on this earth who can use/misuse any of the words mentioned on this thread without showing a definite lack of maturity!!

AXJules 04-03-2004 08:58 PM

here we go...
 
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Originally posted by decadence
Okay, you know I have *not* followed your posts on this board which use the word "ghey" sic and commented on them. :D. But since this is a post talking about your use of it; it's fair game?
That wasn't directed at you, I was just posting in the thread. I don't think you post stalk me or anything like that.
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Okay, the word 'gay' has changed over the years; the original meaning is archaic and nobody today uses it in that sense and everyone (I thought) knows that. Your usage comes across to me anyway as using it simply to describe things in a derogatory fashion not some social comment.

Yes I would agree that the majority of people that use the word use it to mean a homosexual- that's not what I was saying. I meant that originally, I think it was used to refer to that archaic definition as an insult, not to actual gay people. In today's world, though, most people are using it as gay slander. Fine. Once again, I can only tell you how I mean it- I'm not too concerned with whether you think I'm being derogatory or not b/c I know my intentions.
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A person can act in a camp way attributed to effeminate or homosexual individuals yes, but a 'thing' cannot. Precisely why it does not make sense to refer to a 'thing' in such a way! But aside from that someone (a section of society) is on the receiving end of the practice of using the term in that way also.:eek:

Precisely my point--- maybe the rest of the world isn't making sense when they say it, then....
http://www.flexi.net.au/~mkendall/we...he%20beach.jpg
GHEY. Cheesy-horrible-too much happiness for one beach. Dorky. Filled with oddball joy so commonly depicted in bad 50's movies.
http://vikingphoenix.com/public/gchof/rosie-1.jpg GAY. A lesbian woman. Successful. Sexual orientation- towards other females. Shouldn't be used as an insult.


Again, I'm fully aware what 99% of society means when they say 'gay'....I was just explaining why I feel it's ok that I use it. And I'm not too sure what the :eek: face was for at the end....again all I said was that I was NOT referring to someone who was gay.

sugar and spice 04-03-2004 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Ok I swore I was not going to jump into this, but...
I say 'gay' all the time, 'cept I write it "ghey". Obivously I know what it sounds like, but too bad...I use the word gay as in, "They were dancing gaily around....or Everyone is happy and gay." That conjures up an image of really cheesy nerdy stuff.....which is my intention and why I write "ghey" instead of 'gay'. And actually, if you think about it, I think that might be what a lot of people mean by it.....seriously now, how can something act like a homosexual? If I say that someone's joke is gay, I don' tmean it's somehting a gay person would say, I mean it's cheesy or horrible.

I know what I mean, I don't need to explain myself, but I hope you all can see where I'm coming from.

Okay, I'm not really going to get into this, but . . .


People forget that "gay" and "retarded" are not the only words that have been corrupted like this. "Dumb" originally meant "mute," but now people use it regularly to mean "unintelligent." "Imbecile," "moron," etc. were originally technical terms referring to different levels of mental retardation. How many people use them that way today?

I'm sure there are a million more examples.

Do I think it's a good thing that people use "gay"/"retarded"/"ghetto" to mean "bad"/"stupid"? Not really -- but given the way language evolves it's pretty much inevitable.

AGDee 04-04-2004 12:14 AM

My daughter gets on my case when I say "Geez" (she's 10 and Miss Morality of the Universe). She thinks that it is an abbreviated version of J. C. I think it's more like a contraction for Gee Whiz. What do ya'll think?

When I worked with adolescents on inpatient psych units, I didn't allow cursing and would make a game out of having them come up with alternate words like "Fudge". We used to have fun with it and I got my point across to them. The kids would start to say a word and I'd finish with one of our "alternate" words and we'd all end up laughing.

The schools really get upset with "pissed off" and "sucks" but those don't really bother me that much.

Dee

FHwku 04-04-2004 03:55 AM

AXjules, those people on the beach are wearing shoes. on the beach. the dude looking at the camera looks like he's singing and the bridesmaid is singing louder. beach etiquette says, "no shoes on the beach."

and you followed up the picture of gay, frolicking people with giant rosie head. pre-mullet.

nucutiepie 04-04-2004 07:20 AM

Hey...this is my first post in a LONG time (sorry, I kinda disappeared for awhile, but im back!!!)

I agree with hating the word gay - it grates on my nerves every time I hear it i think it is the most awful thing!

For whatever reason I hate the word vagina - I think its ugly. Couldn't we call it something prettier?

mmcat 04-04-2004 08:57 AM

i'll give you a challenge...try to wean high school students off the f word.
i tell them it's an action verb, but not in school.

AlphaSigOU 04-04-2004 09:11 AM

Being a New Yawk City native, there are hundreds of ways the F-word can be injected into everyday speech and it's generally not considered offensive unless it's directed at someone. However, there is one certain word that I consider offensive, and I just don't particularly care to use it or hear it said:

C*nt - Whether using it to crudely describe a part of the female anatomy or referring to a despicable woman. Just irks me to no end.

hottytoddy 04-04-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXJules
Ok I swore I was not going to jump into this, but...
I say 'gay' all the time, 'cept I write it "ghey". Obivously I know what it sounds like, but too bad...I use the word gay as in, "They were dancing gaily around....or Everyone is happy and gay." That conjures up an image of really cheesy nerdy stuff.....which is my intention and why I write "ghey" instead of 'gay'. And actually, if you think about it, I think that might be what a lot of people mean by it.....seriously now, how can something act like a homosexual? If I say that someone's joke is gay, I don' tmean it's somehting a gay person would say, I mean it's cheesy or horrible.

I know what I mean, I don't need to explain myself, but I hope you all can see where I'm coming from.

Co-sign this. There are many words that have several different meanings. When I say something is gay, I don't mean it's homosexual. I use this word in this way around gay people all the time and they know what I mean.

AlphaSigOU 04-04-2004 10:36 AM

Military Creole... a dying language!
 
Quoth Thomas Wolfe in his classic work of American aerospace literature, The Right Stuff, on page 143 (lightly edited for clarity):

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[Original Mercury 7 astronaut] Deke [Slayton] had started flying in the Second World War, when the Air Force was still part of the Army. In the Army one was continually around people who spoke Army Creole, a language in which there were about ten nouns, five verbs, and one adjective, or participle, or whatever it was called. There always seemed to be a couple of good buddies from Valdosta or Oilville or some place sitting around saying:

"I tol'im iffie tried to f*ck me over, I was gonna kick'is f*ckin' a**, iddnat right?"

"F*ckin' A."

"Soey kep'on f*ckin' me over and I kicked 'is f*ckin' a** in fo'im, iddnat right?"

"F*ckin' A."

"An' so now they tellin' me they gon' th'ow my f*ckin' a** inna f*ckin' stoc-kade! You know what? They some kinda f*ckin' me over!"

"F*ckin' A well tol', Bubba."
In those days when the Ooooooold Air Farce was the best Air Farce, it was not unusual to overhear conversations spoken in fluent Military Creole.

33girl 04-04-2004 11:54 AM

To expound on AlphaSigOU's post, Ben Bradlee said the phrase that summed up his military experience was "The f***ing f***er's f***ed."

I like that word and use it often - it has so many uses - but I do not like to hear GD or JC either.

The words that really offend me the most are doublespeak & corporatespeak - if you can't tell me what you mean then shut up - although I don't care much for "panties" either. :p

cutiepatootie 04-04-2004 12:04 PM

Re: here we go...
 
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Originally posted by AXJules
http://www.flexi.net.au/~mkendall/we...he%20beach.jpg
GHEY. Cheesy-horrible-too much happiness for one beach. Dorky. Filled with oddball joy so commonly depicted in bad 50's movies.


Having fun , happy maybe cheeseballish but still normal.
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http://vikingphoenix.com/public/gchof/rosie-1.jpg GAY. A lesbian woman. Successful. Sexual orientation- towards other females. Shouldn't be used as an insult.


Abrasive obnoxious wants to rub her orientation into way to many faces by toting it around everywhere and in everything she does... No wonder why she isnt like anymore!





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