If they aren't doing that based on percentage they are 1) LAZY and 2) maybe not worth supporting. If they aren't going to support you-why support them? It is so much better to have 100% of 50 girls show up than 50% of 100. Yes it is the same amount of girls-but not the same amount of support. If they can't do the long division and then move the decimal, I'd be happy to show them!

Second-it is us that is making this a size matters thing. It doesn't matter outside of our own world. Enron was huge-not the best company come to find out. Bigger=better doesn't mean squat when you leave the greek community and go into the real world. My highschool is bigger than yours-are we better-probably not. I do agree there are advantages to larger systems. You have many more hands to do the work. That is great. If you are too small it gets difficult for everyone to do everything all the time-sure. But thet's not forget that everything is realtive. A Tri-Delta chapter of 50 may be small at one school,but it may be huge at another college.

Also-ladies feel me on this. Why do we see so much more diversity in men's groups? Why can a campus have a fraternity of 50 and another fraternity of 20 and they are totally OK with that? I mean, I know when I was in school, the biggest sorority had like 150 members and the biggest fraternity had 80. But the sorority with 80 members was considered struggling. The fraternity with 30 guys wasn't considered struggling. If the sorority with 150 members had a social with the guys in the 80 member house-that is still weird. So telling me that people won't have socials with you or whatever if you are smaller is silly. The men's groups tend to be smaller in general because there is always more of them. I forgot what my point was. I have to take my medication now....;)

That's what i was wondering when i first read that. OF COURSE the group with 200 members is going to be on top just because they have more than the others. %s are much better. It helped us out.
The only thing i could see where it wouldn't help is if tickets are sold and sales go for points. Cuz one group could have minimal members but invite all their mom's sister's son-in-laws to an event while the larger group would only invite themselves.

I totally agree with Diamond Delta. I know of fraternities here that have a big difference in number yet, they are all in the top tier of fraternities at Ole Miss. It is weird the way it works because if a sorority at Ole Miss had let's say, 60 members and everyone else had between 190-260 then there would be a problem for that sorority with only 60 members. It is weird the way it all works out though. I met some AOIIs from some chapters in LA a few weekends ago and their chapter are so much smaller than the AOII chapter here at Ole Miss. I realize their campuses aren't as Greek as Ole Miss is but they were like, "How do you get to know eveveryone?" Well, the best answer I can give is that, you want to get to know everyone because you do have so many members. Even as a chapter adviser, I love talking to members I haven't met before or sat down with and talked to. Anyway, that's just my thoughts. :)

AMEN TO THAT!

One of the sorority chapters here decided that they were going to take a more diverse group of women. While they are still one of the biggest, the rumors going around are that they've gotten worse as a chapter. Totally untrue. They just have a more diverse group of women rather than the barbie-dolls that they used to have.

Yet, our fraternities consist of 5 "southern" fraternities, 3 "northern" fraternities, a fraternity for the political type guys, a Christian fraternity (also known as the fraternity that doesn't haze), a diverse all around fraternity (the pin-up party guys and the smart intellectual guys), and one fraternity that is known as the fraternity for guys who couldn't get into a fraternity (but that one's quickly improving). You can't really number the fraternities from best to worst. I mean, everyone has their own opinions as to who is number one, but with the sororities, it's pretty clear. It just disgusts me that there's no diversity in our greek system, and the sororities who try to be diverse ultimately fail and close.

All right, there's my vent for the day.

I think this is because of the total rule ... I mean because we have a number set by our panhellenic council that they feel the chapters should be at.. the ones below it (or at with other chapters WAAAAYYY over it) are not meeting a "standard" and therefore aren't "good chapters. It's really kinda psychological since you're given a goal if you're not meeting it then that's bad... esp. if other groups are.. it SUCKS becuase it's true the guys really don't notice (well they do) but they just join the house they feel most compfortable.. ( they see it as more of just a difference then something bad.. something to consider when joining and looking at the pros and cons of small V. larger)

Wouldn't the pressure to have a certain amount of people take away from the integrity of the institution? Just Curious.

SMSUBear

It could, but not necessarily. The pressure to acheive a goal can also unify the organization, and when that goal is collectively acheived, morale is sky high. Successful group acheivement can strengthen the integrity of that institution.

Size ALWAYS matters . . . only the small preach otherwise.

Really?

Yes, it is always percieved that the biggest chapter on any campus must be the BEST chapter at the school. But that is not always the case. Sometimes with bigger chapters there are more problems within the chapter that can't be worked out.

My chapter is at the moment only 16 actives strong, but I think that we rock as a chapter. We just had our philanthropy in February and we had such a great turnout , it really made us proud. We are also aproaching our 2nd anniversary in April.

Yes, with only 16 actives it is hard to do certain things, i.e. derby days, panhellenic stuff, but we have managed to do well,so well that we recieved Chapter of the Year, Highest GPA Awards at our Regional Conventions, which we hosted, we are small but we have quality, strong women.

So being large is not always the best thing.

ohh p.s., our retention rate is a good one. In the last 2yrs we've only had one girl go inactive and we've only dropped those girls that have comitted serious infrations during our pledge process. We hold our sisterly bond close to our hearts and we make sure that when one is having a problem we rally and help them out. We would hate to lose a sister because we didn't uphold sisterhood. ;)