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OleMissGlitter 01-26-2004 03:44 PM

I know you can contact a GLO's headquarters and tell them the name and the school and the year of initiation and they will tell you if you are correct. I did that just this past December 2003 when I wanted to find out if my great-grandmother and my great-aunt were Theta's at Tulane. And yes they were I found out. I am sure if there was a member in question and you knew which GLO you could email that headquarters and get an answer. Obviously, they cannot tell you addresses, phone numbers, DOB, etc because that is private information and since I work for Alumni Affairs at Ole Miss I know we would never give that out over the phone. However, we can verfiy whether or not an alumni graduated from Ole Miss. I also know AOII is great about verifying alumnae for our chapter. We have tons of legacies who go through recruitment each year and since I've been Chapter Adviser we have them checked by headquarters. You'd be surprised that some women do lie about their legacies, or their mothers were new member but never initiated. In a nut shell, I would think you could contact a GLO and ask them. I wouldn't email them 100 new members names because that would be absurd, but maybe one name you needed to check.

AOIIalum 01-26-2004 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
There's really no way to control this from campus to campus, but there is really NO excuse for this to happen on the same campus! Where were the sisters of GLO #1? Why weren't they screaming their heads off? And GLO #2? Why would they trust someone who had so little regard for their previous pledge?
I completely agree with this, Honey. It just doesn't make sense. You'd think GLO #1 would be contacting their national office along with GLO #2's nationals about something like that happpening on their campus.

It's one thing to pledge someone who depledged elsewhere. Maybe they weren't happy with their choice, but gave it a try and realized before initiation it wasn't right for whatever reason. But to initiate and then quit to join another sorority at the same school? Wow.

ISUKappa 01-26-2004 04:12 PM

It's unfortunate that people aren't always completely honest in these situations, and I agree, that it occurred at the same campus is unbelieveable. You'd think someone would have stopped it.

And I know it does happen, but I really feel strongly against a woman being a member of two NPC orgs.

sherbertlemons 01-26-2004 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by AOIIalum
But to initiate and then quit to join another sorority at the same school? Wow.
I'd like to know how she had the nerve to show her face around Panhellenic.

sugar and spice 01-26-2004 04:25 PM

There are schools where I'm sure people don't care.

We've often talked about how GCers are probably the top 10 percent when it comes to devotion to their organizations. I'm sure that there are many in the remaining 90 percent who just don't know the rules or don't bother to follow them.

33girl 01-26-2004 04:43 PM

maybe so...but if there was a WHOLE CHAPTER full of girls and none of them questioned the other sorority's feelings - let alone the rules - let alone the character of this woman - that's one f'ed up chapter.

Glitter650 01-26-2004 04:46 PM

While it wouldn't be *too difficult* to find out if someone was a member of another NPC (especially if you knew what school they came from) I'm sure it's not SOP for the HQs of each org. to call each other when the paperwork comes in for the new members ya know ? They'd need a reason to suspect that this woman had been a part of an org. previously. I agree with GP here... I really don't see a problem with a woman rushing if she transfers, as long as she is willing to sever ties with the previous org. (turn in her pin and everything) I mean she would still I assume love the ladies she left.. but for the sake of where to donate time/money as an alum I think it's only fair to really "quit" the first org. I mean in the panhellenic spirit I def. wouldn't TAKE a trasnfer who was a NPC member previously.. but I think it's something Panhellenic should look at... IMO. If this girl is trying to join another NPC on the same campus I really don't think it would work out for her... isn't that a rule they explain on info night at rush ?? NO JOINING TWO HOUSES ?? even someone not THAT familiar with rules should know that one...

sugar and spice 01-26-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
maybe so...but if there was a WHOLE CHAPTER full of girls and none of them questioned the other sorority's feelings - let alone the rules - let alone the character of this woman - that's one f'ed up chapter.
Right, but assuming the original chapter knew, they could have reported it to the second chapter's HQ and they didn't. Maybe they didn't want to be tattletales but I think that at least a part of it was that they knew this girl was better off elsewhere and didn't really care if she joined the second sorority.

aopinthesky 01-26-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Glitter650
I really don't see a problem with a woman rushing if she transfers, as long as she is willing to sever ties with the previous org. (turn in her pin and everything)
I assume that you are speaking hypothetically here, since no NPC group has a policy that would allow this.

rho4life 01-26-2004 05:11 PM

Here's a question: If a woman has prevously been initiated into a NPC and wants to go NPHC - would you take her?

And vice versa, if a woman is inducted into an NPHC org and then rushes a NPC, would you take her?

Peaches-n-Cream 01-26-2004 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by rho4life
Here's a question: If a woman has prevously been initiated into a NPC and wants to go NPHC - would you take her?

And vice versa, if a woman is inducted into an NPHC org and then rushes a NPC, would you take her?

I think that the answer is no.

tunatartare 01-26-2004 05:50 PM

I wanna pose another question out there: I know that NPC bylaws state that if a girl who's in an NPC transfers she can do a local at her new school and if a girl who's in a local transfers, she can do any NPC with the exception of the ones that were on her old campus. On a local chapter level, how many sororities here would let their members do another sorority in this respect even if it was ok by NPC bylaws. I know that my sorority has a rule that after you've pledged for a certain number of weeks, and certainly after you've been initiated, you aren't allowed to do another sorority at all.

Lady Pi Phi 01-26-2004 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by DaisyKLP
I wanna pose another question out there: I know that NPC bylaws state that if a girl who's in an NPC transfers she can do a local at her new school and if a girl who's in a local transfers, she can do any NPC with the exception of the ones that were on her old campus. On a local chapter level, how many sororities here would let their members do another sorority in this respect even if it was ok by NPC bylaws. I know that my sorority has a rule that after you've pledged for a certain number of weeks, and certainly after you've been initiated, you aren't allowed to do another sorority at all.
But if the NPC allows for this, how can an individual chapter override NPC bylaws or policies?

MTSUGURL 01-26-2004 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by DaisyKLP
and if a girl who's in a local transfers, she can do any NPC with the exception of the ones that were on her old campus.
I didn't know that...

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On a local chapter level, how many sororities here would let their members do another sorority in this respect even if it was ok by NPC bylaws. I know that my sorority has a rule that after you've pledged for a certain number of weeks, and certainly after you've been initiated, you aren't allowed to do another sorority at all.
How do you enforce this if someone were to diaffliate from your org and join another?

I was initiated into a service sorority on my campus, and had a horrible experience. Thankfully, I was allowed to rush again because there were no rules that prevented it, and have found a happy home in Phi Chi. I know we have had girls that decided they would be happier in an NPC org, left Phi Chi, and joined one of the NPC's. We still love them very much and happily claim them as alum unless they disaffiliated instead of going alum.

Our Greek life director is a DZ alum from one university, but when she transferred they didn't have DZ, so she joined a local. She's wonderful and I'm so glad we have someone with that experience.

33girl 01-26-2004 06:06 PM

actually...
 
If a girl who's in a local transfers, she can join ANY NPC - it doesn't matter if they were on her old campus or not. Unless she joined an NPC, quit, and then joined the local.

If you were in an NPC and didn't want the girl from the local, you just wouldn't give her a bid - it's not like you HAVE to take her.


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