Thanks for clarifying - now any advice as per his original post?

Anyway -

Josh - I'd say get their names on stuff in writing, or do some suspensions/fines/etc if it's that big of a problem . . . more specifically:

I've heard of chapters just passing a list, maybe at chapter or at dinner in the house, having brothers sign up for 1-hr slots through the night for particular tasks. Then it's in writing, the social chair(s) are in charge of enforcing the list, and whoever your risk management chair is holds the ultimate authority (up to ejecting guys who don't do their job, regardless of if they live in the house).

The key to this system is to have a strong risk-management chair, one who people listen to, and give him total authority over running the event (w/ Social chair), especially if it's not at a 3rd-party location (even w/ a 3rd-party vendor).

Josh, hoped the day cleared the fog out!

It is tuff to vent on Brothers as you become an asswhole and not a Brother!

If have a need to vent you always have friends here!

Yepper is tuff to try to make all toe the line, but it do not work like that as you are learning!

It sounds like that the many dont and the few do:confused:

Remember, You are a Man among many!

I cannot say that about when I started the local, but have run accross it many times since we have been on campus.

Do what you can and someday, you too can be President:eek: :)

KSig RC has the right idea.

School policy at my college required every fraternity to front a team of at least six men for security for every party. So, for every party we had a team that we called "6-Men." People signed up for the team. People could rotate in and out of the team during the party, but every member of the team was required to be sober. (Our public parties were all dry, so this was less of an issue, but that didn't mean that people didn't drink somewhere else and then show up.)

Here's what the crew might look like for one of our theme parties:

6-Man 1 (Sgt.-at-Arms/Risk Man.): roving, supervising, handling any issues of disorder
6-Man 2: Main floor and main entry
6-Man 3: North stairwell, observing north back door, stairs down, stairs up (off limits)
6-Man 4: South stairwell, observing south back door, stairs down, stairs up (off limits)
6-Man 5: Downstairs dining hall (dancing room).
6-Man 6: roving or assigned where needed.

The upstairs, off limits to guests, was to be carefully guarded and regularly patrolled.

Then there'd be the party crew. Our most complex party had a tunnel people crawled through to get to the basement. These guys have to be sober too:
1 storyteller/tunnel entry guard
2 tunnel rats (in what seems like a contradiction, these guys serve both to alarm people and to watch out for their safety)
1-2 tunnel slide catchers
1 upstairs food/beverage server
1 downstairs beverage server

In a fraternity of 25-30 people, rotating people through these positions every few hours, this meant that everyone in the chapter had a job for at least one hour.

Failure to sign up for a job and to report for it having signed up for it merits discipline of some sort. That probably would have meant extra kitchen duty. Failing to show up for 6-Man was viewed rather more poorly. But people generally didn't fail to show up. The Sergeant-at-Arms, though usually softspoken, was huge, stern, and generally not to be trifled with.

I'm not in a fraternity (I'm female) so I can only tell you a system I've seen work really well from my outside perspective. This requires about 10 brothers at a time (or less depending on house setup and proximity to campus). Each job is a one hour shift (or 1 1/2 hours depending on the length of the party). Everyone working must be sober as well as the exec. board. Jobs are assigned by social chair and he has some sort of rotating schedual so each brother occasionally gets a night off.

Job 1 - 2 brothers - Sober Drivers - pre arranged pick-ups from campus and sober driving guests home

Job 2 - 2 brothers - Porch Duty - sit on the front porch with a walkie-talkie and report any activity to the basement.

Job 3 - 2 brothers - Outside Door - Keep the outside door closed and check guests/list. These guys are held responsible for the people who get in.

Job 4 - 2 brothers - Inside Door - These guys stand at the bottom of the steps and check I.D, take money, mark hands (it's cool, they use a yellow highlighter so you can see it in the blacklight but it's not obvious outside)

Job 5 - 2 brothers - Bar - What more needs to be said?

They also have the same D.J every week, I think it's because he doesn't trust anyone else with his laptop. Putting 2 brothers at every station at a time also keeps anyone from being stranded alone. It's easier to handle any situations with 2 people as opposed to one. This fraternity has also never once been busted . . . they play it safe.Exec. is present to handle any problems that arise during a party.

These guys take their jobs seriously because they're brothers (not pledges) and so it's THEIR asses if anything happens.

Super, it matters Not matter awhit if a Fraternity or a Soroity, It matters that you care enuff to watch out for all concerned!

If you do that then Huzzas to you!

In the Greek World, We must all look out for each other!

I do not know how many times at the Bars, we gave lifts/rides to members of another Org., no matter what! It was the thing to do!:)

When You Joinned this group of crazies, who I love dearly, it is for real and all time!:D :) :cool:

josh-
best of luck.. its hard to talk to brothers/sisters about something that may upset them or has upset you.. stay strong.

We have door duty at UM too. Not only do the guys have to do it, but so do the girls.

Sororities can still drink at fraternities at UM when we throw parties with them. No sororities can sponsor them though.

So instead of being for example Beta and Tri-Delt's party, its just Beta's with a guest list.

But yeah, your guy needs to do door duty if he's suppose to. Yeah its a party and everyone wants to have fun, but 30 mins out of like a 3-4 party isnt going to kill anyone.

UMGirl, excellent POINT! I was surprised when I went down for a weekend and there was a Brother who was desgignated Driver.

I thought that was fantastic! No one wants to lose a member of your close knit Org to a traffic accident especially when a Brother is a LT. On the Sheriff Dept and might have to be there!:(

Seeing a dead body especially one of your own is not a thing you want to do:(

Please All, use common sense and be careful.:)

You have 49 pledges. Put a few of them at the door, and tell them to only let in brothers and good looking girls.

Josh, do you have an update on the situation?