While colleges may hold OOS students to higher admission bars, the fact remains that OOS students are money makers for the colleges and colleges are money pits. It behooves said college to admit OOS students if for no other reason than money.

Several schools cleverly boosted their GPA admission statistics by offering free rides to stellar students from OOS. Unfortunately that meant that some local students would not be able to attend their preferred in state school, but hey, that low GPA is slowly rising.

State schools are still state schools, whether they are crowned "the best" or a "public ivy" in a magazine trying to sell copies or alumni trying to make themselves seem more important than they really are. Some people place the importance on ivy, while others realize it is still a public university.

I've got some outdoor stuff to enjoy right now but you can pull the graduation and drop out rates for UT and compare to the other schools in question.

We come to the same conclusion.

Texas is harder to get into. And it's apples to oranges when talking about the state of greek life at UT versus Alabama and the rest.

I don't need to, I have access to them.

Batten down those hatches PVGord and stay safe.

Since I have lived in various parts of the US during my adult life, I have consistently encountered two things concerning flagship universities.

1. Some graduates of those schools have a hard time believing that in-state students with similar grades and resumes' would choose to go elsewhere for college. They automatically assume those students weren't admitted.

2. Those graduates have a strong need to make sure others know their alma mater is a flagship or public ivy. Anyone ever read "The Sneetches" by Dr. Suess?

Back to Recruitment - any word on whether there are changes to parties or schedule due to Harvey?

TAMU girls will hear which group they have gotten from their recruitment counselors today. Bid Day festivities are postponed.

Understandable but darn! What a letdown!

How anti-climactic for them. I guess it's about the sisterhood and not the celebration, but I hope the groups are able to welcome them in their own way when the weather isn't quite so bad.

True facts.

Someone has suggested that because of this method of bid delivery, more girls who don't like their bids might drop. There won't be as much camaraderie to propel them to Bid Day.

That thought occurred to me. On the plus side, Texas State has extended registration for recruitment, so maybe we'll get some more pnms.

Yea, why wouldn't they just wait? I know it'd be tough not to hear for another week (at least), but I think it'd be better than hearing now and waiting.

Maybe, maybe not. Even if the big festivities are postponed, it's not like the new members are going to be prohibited from spending time from girls in their new chapters. It might actually be very comforting to a freshman new member who is new on campus to feel she has some new people to contact and use as a friendly resource during the storm and its aftermath.

As to the assertion that private bid delivery will result in more declined bids, I know of 2 schools that went to pricate bid delivery as SOP and there were FEWER declined bids as a result. Every school is different of course, but these schools found that the opportunity for the PNM to hear results privately and consider how they aligned with what THEY want as opposed to what their friends or fellow PNMs want was very valuable!

I know it's a tradition and just plain more expedient when 1000+ girls are receiving bids, but I've always thought the concept of accepting bids in such a public setting was barbaric. If you were super PNM or know where you're going (only had one pref) & have had time to prepare, it's fine. If you are unsure of the choice you made or where you're going, yikes. To be able to vent and cry with your rho gam before you face everyone seems like it would go a long way toward acceptance and making the best of your lot.

I'm not assuming. I have years of experience with kids going elsewhere because they are not admitted to UT. Texas is really proud of it's status, as evidenced by the out-sized attitude of UT alum the world over.

This is getting old so I'm happy to capitulate: If you think that Alabama, Ole Miss and Arkansas students are of equal academic caliber to UT students, we can just let that stand.

"still a public university".

I'd take a public like CalBerkeley, UCLA or Michigan any day over most privates. Some of the best universities in the nation are publics.