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James 08-01-2002 01:41 AM

A quick and dirty way to judge the overall performance of a Greek Advisor in relation to your Greek System is to go back to the date they arrived and ask the following questions:

1. Are the organizations significantly bigger than they were when she started? (A clear sign of Growing Greek Life)

2. Are there more organizations on campus? (Again a clear sign of more Greek interest)

3. Have the intergreek Councils improved in operation? (More functions and less concerned with regulation etc)

4. If the answer was yes to those questions, is it because of programs the Greek Advisor started for that purpose or through their spiritual leadership (Personal influence)?

5. Do you officially hear about more interGreek intercampus conferences etc? Or is the Greek advisor setting up such conferences himself? (A sign that she is giving you more information about how other campuses perform and allowing you to network with those Greeks)

6. Has the Greek Advisor set up a series of leadership seminars that deal with "How To" issues that have left you with the ability to do things better? (a clear sign of some sophisticated leadership knowledge and an effective presentation. Oh and if you don't leave with a "tool" you can use for your problem it doesn't count)

7. Is your Greek Advisor more concerned with giving incentives than giving out punishment?

DeltAlum 08-01-2002 11:09 AM

I skirted on this issue in a post above, but it's also important to remember that generally a university Greek Advisor works for the university in the final analysis.

Because of that, they have the option to carry out the administrations desires, lobby for change in those or find another job.

As many school administrations become more anti-Greek, (whether for good reasons or bad) the prospect of more "bad" (at least from the GLO perspective) Greek Advisors is probably strong.

lifesaver 08-01-2002 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
A quick and dirty way to judge the overall performance of a Greek Advisor in relation to your Greek System is to go back to the date they arrived and ask the following questions:

1. Are the organizations significantly bigger than they were when she started? (A clear sign of Growing Greek Life)

2. Are there more organizations on campus? (Again a clear sign of more Greek interest)

3. Have the intergreek Councils improved in operation? (More functions and less concerned with regulation etc)

4. If the answer was yes to those questions, is it because of programs the Greek Advisor started for that purpose or through their spiritual leadership (Personal influence)?

5. Do you officially hear about more interGreek intercampus conferences etc? Or is the Greek advisor setting up such conferences himself? (A sign that she is giving you more information about how other campuses perform and allowing you to network with those Greeks)

6. Has the Greek Advisor set up a series of leadership seminars that deal with "How To" issues that have left you with the ability to do things better? (a clear sign of some sophisticated leadership knowledge and an effective presentation. Oh and if you don't leave with a "tool" you can use for your problem it doesn't count)

7. Is your Greek Advisor more concerned with giving incentives than giving out punishment?

Um,
no
no
no
no
no
no
and no.


Were having issues w/ our greek advisor right now too. As I have mentioned before, shes very unprofessional, and is nothing more than a middle manager. Our last greek advisor rocked. Hes now director of greek life at SWT. God I wish we still had him. Anyway.."Shelly" as well call her, has been busting our chops about summer rush.

Until last summer they let all student orgs set up tables at orientation (which is 2 days long) and rush. They got rid of that last summer, so wed talk to frehmen outside of the orientation, when it was done. A few weeks ago she came by and told us to leave as we couldnt be there. We did , but investigated, and we arent breaking any rules by being there, especially since its in the student center, which is student funded. so she got her boss involved, (which i hate incidentally) and she was "ya'll cant be here" and we were "why" and they were like "'cause." So we called the chapter atty, and he got them to say in their own words that we could be there. So we assumed the issue was dead, we won, right? No, cause dumb ass hooker tells us yesterday to leave. So were gonna go way over her head to resolve this. I am tired of dealing with some dumb ass who doesnt know what she is doing.

OnePlus69Is70 08-01-2002 08:17 PM

I will say that our Greek Advisor is excellent- he's a Pike from IU. He works really hard to keep things together, keep the houses from screwing up too badly- he tries to act as a buffer between us and the administrators who want to shut us down. Though he still makes some tough decisions- he closed the Pike house after they screwed up big time. All in all, he's as good as one could expect under the circumstances.

James 08-01-2002 08:27 PM

How does he rate on the quality points I listed above? Just curious.

Quote:

Originally posted by OnePlus69Is70
I will say that our Greek Advisor is excellent- he's a Pike from IU. He works really hard to keep things together, keep the houses from screwing up too badly- he tries to act as a buffer between us and the administrators who want to shut us down. Though he still makes some tough decisions- he closed the Pike house after they screwed up big time. All in all, he's as good as one could expect under the circumstances.

OnePlus69Is70 08-01-2002 08:51 PM

On the points you named, he's terrible. We've lost seven houses, the system is less than half the size it was, and the chapters hardly speak to one another. But that would have happened with or without him- our Greek system is self-destructing. Imagine everything that the undergrads in a Greek system can do wrong. Now multiply it by 500. Imagine houses $18,000 behind in payments to their nationals, roofs caving in, rapes, assaults, brawls.....no deaths yet, but I'm sure that's coming. Hazing that cuts pledge classes by three-quarters by the end of the semester. And every weekend, 2000 drunk underclassman wandering the town's main thoroughfare on their way back from the row.

He's kept us floating through all that- spun every piece of bad press, minimized damage where he could, cut chapters off where he had too. My chapter relies on him- we're not even two years old, and we have a clean record, but every time another house does something wrong, the administration threatens to crack down and restrict the rights of all Greeks. Last year, the administration wanted to close all Greek housing. He convinced them to just set new standards- if he hadn't done that, we wouldn't be in our new-to-us house.

So......he's like the head of a small school for the mentally retarded. He can't really improve their situation, but he can keep them from burning the building down.

prophet 08-02-2002 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKapp139
prophet,

i think i know who you are talking about but i think what my bro was trying to say was that we dont have someone that is just a greek advisor and nothing else, if he is that then i guess i'm an idiot. I know that we have a personal one for our org but i dont think he is very good. Oh well. I'm curious to know about all the things he has done for us greeks, let me know.
Also we should get a Phi Tau/ Pi Kapp b-ball game going, i dont play softball, let me know we should have it every semester, of course we all know who is going to win.....

hit me back!

Yo, for sure we should play some B-Ball, I played the other day with one of your bros, maybe your him I don't know. Anyway he is a baller and I'm down for anything and, "of course we all know who is going to win...."(PiKapp139). I don't know why don't you tell me. Never talk shitnik untill you have done the deed. About the things he, Greek advisor, has done for Greeks I can go on and on, but it'd be to long. I work with the guy trust me has done alot for Greeks, but of course he can do more. The reason he is not only a Greek advisor is because SFSU is not a large and strong Greek community, like Berkeley. Phi Taus and Pi Kapps need to be the role models to the other Greeks on campus because our organizations are the largest. We need to work the system, an underground I.F.C thing. Not saying we need to form an I.F.C. because it won't happen, but we need to work together as if we were part of an SFSU I.F.C.
FKT SFSU epsilon theta chapter
www.bspotonline.com/phitau


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