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As a sister of Delta Gamma on UNF campus, i'm appalled by your blatent, if not intentional, disrespect of our chapter. Maybe you weren't trying to be malicious, but it sounded exactly like that.

Like others have said, you have no way of knowing the inner workings of our bidding and new member period. I would like to think that before a chapter initiates a new member they take the time to get to know the person. I feel that I would be able to recognize the type of person that would do something as low as rushing with an alterior motive. I believe that someone that would do these type of things would not meet our criteria.

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Well DG here isn't the best sorority on campus as far as good looking girls, but at UF....DAMN!

It's funny how you compliment DG on having the best sisterhood after you get flamed for first disrespecting us like this. Nice attempt at saving face. You said yourself that you don't really associate with any sisters currently; that you're more of a AXO and ZTA guy now. So, whatever you know about our sisterhood is based on what... hearsay? I am more likely to accept a compliment like that from someone who actually communicates with us on more than a Homecoming/ Greek Week/ Intramural level.

I appreciate your bringing this topic to light, but I feel that you should stick to what you know. No offense but you're a guy and don't know what it's like to go through women's formal recruitment or new member period.

SailorchicDG
Delta Gamma
Eta Delta Chapter

Ok, so I haven't quite run out of things to say... maybe it's because you are talking about my SISTERS, though!

The thing is, yeah, there are going to be chapters with different reputations, and I've said this many times before. Harvard has an incredibly wonderful DG chapter based on leadership and intelligence, while USC (in Cali) had a MOVIE based on their chapter because they're the beautiful stereo-typical sorority girls (and, might I add, both chapters win awards at convention!). The thing is, and maybe fraternities don't have this as much as sororities, but our chapters mix... a LOT. Our ATC and faculty advisor are both from different chapters (Gamma Zeta and Gamma Alpha). We hold founder's day with Furman and Clemson. All chapters trade t-shirts and talk online! We have the same rituals, the same history, and sometimes even the same problems. Delta Gamma, as a whole, is one of the strongest national female fraternities around. And I love to be one. So, I really don't like the fact that my sisters are being bad-mouthed right now. Because they are just that... MY SISTERS. Even though I may have never met them, we've gone through the same things, and that makes our bonds special. Sorry for the cheese, but just had to put that in.

Well I am transferring, but they don't have my chapter at my new school which is okay with me. I would hate to be from the South-- sounds like it is all about money and looks. SO on both those counts I would have been cut right away.

I'm wondering, if you have voluntarily resigned from sorority at a college (because the chapter was getting a very bad rep.) then later transfer to a larger school, can you "rejoin" that sorority?

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Originally Posted by sorryileft (Post 1719476)

I'm wondering, if you have voluntarily resigned from sorority at a college (because the chapter was getting a very bad rep.) then later transfer to a larger school, can you "rejoin" that sorority?

You would need to check with your HQ. If you left chapter #1 and was not in good standing, you may need to take steps to reinstate yourself before you consider affiliation.

There are also chapters out there who say straight up that they don't take transfer members wishing to affiliate. (ETA: I think it's funny that the OP mentioned the UNF DG who rushed at UNF knowing that she was going to affiliate with UF DG. Only it's been said by many here on GC that the UF DG chapter does not take in affiliates. Based on the OP's history of pulling things out of his ass, I'm sure this was the case 6 years ago, only we didn't know it back then.)

It all depends, but your HQ would know for sure.

No matter the reason, once you resign from an npc, it is final. You may not rejoin. Contact hq to see if there is an appeals process to reinstate membership.

UNFSigmaChi - I've got lots of friends at Florida and from what I hear your chapter isn't exactly the greatest around and I'm pretty sure there are (or were?) some of your guys that affiliated at UF where EX is a top 3 house. I wouldn't throw stones in this case if I were you.

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1719495)

CB Dear, the OP started this thread in 2002 and hasn't posted since 2003. :p

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Originally Posted by UMgirl (Post 227433)

This is my first time hearing something like this. I hope its rare.

I know this is a super -old thread, but it happens all the time.

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1719497)

CB Dear, the OP started this thread in 2002 and hasn't posted since 2003. :p

Well thank you, I saw there were posts today and I kinda wondered how a thread this long happened without me seeing it, that kinda explains it.

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1719497)

CB Dear, the OP started this thread in 2002 and hasn't posted since 2003. :p

Oh damn. I just wasted 15 minutes of my life reading it before I saw this.

Amusing stuff anyway. At Texas, attempts at this kind of thing happen all the time. But there are absolutely no guarantees of reaffiliating- so it is always a risky move. Speaking for my chapter, I think on average we decline 50% of attempted reaffiliations- it was like that in my day as an active, and about the same now (and as an advisor I advocate very careful vetting of anyone seeking to reaffiliate.)

Call me clueless, but I really did not think young ladies did this just to be part of a sorority of supposed "top tier standing".

I recall a transfer coming into my group and we never had a vote. She definitely was not a "fit" in our group and probably would not have been chosen had she gone through recruitment. What I do remember, she was welcomed with open arms and she was truly the absolute nicest young woman. She was a sister and of course she was forever a part of our group.

I am so saddened that people stoop this low now. It ruins it for the young women who transfer for all the proper reasons (whatever they may be) and then, they can't affiliate. It stinks!

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Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat (Post 227659)

I got into a bit of a tussle with a southern alumna at our Convention last month. The hot topic this summer was alumnae initiation, which some of the older members, especially southern ones, felt would compromise our sisterhood. The woman in question told me that she felt only women who could "make it through collegiate rush at a school with a good Kappa chapter" were deserving of membership. She felt that Kappa was deteriorating as it was and that this measure would let the riffraff in. She insisted that I was too young and inexperienced to understand. I informed her that, as far as she was concerned, I was probably riffraff [I'm from a small, young chapter at a small, north-midwestern school and my family has neither prestige nor old money nor any sort of old, antebellum heritage], but that I was wearing a Key the same as she, so I was a sister and there was nothing she could do about it. I probably wouldn't have made it past first set where she came from, but more importantly, I probably wouldn't have ever wanted to be Greek there anyway. Everything she showed me in those five minutes proved to me that she knew nothing about the gentle sisterhood that I'd found at my chapter, the love that broke down my preconceptions and stereotypes. The situation almost came to blows (in the middle of a buffet lunch-- it would have been beautiful!) but our chapter president rescued me. Our chapter president happens to be Indian (i.e. her parents are from India), and the scornful look that this woman gave her... oh, it was priceless.

Why am I telling you this? Well, I came to find out later that this woman had originally initiated at a northern chapter and then transferred "back down home." She sent her daughter to the same school, where as a legacy she would be almost guaranteed a bid, and the girl was transferring to her mother's southern alma mater for the fall.

So the moral of the story? Hmm... well, people who have problems with "letting riffraff in" probably have a touch of an inferiority complex themselves. And yet those same people are the ones who we find hedging their bets by "sneaking in" at a school where there "aren't any standards for membership" and then transferring. All that for a girl to say that she's an XYZ from U of _____. I guess what I'm saying is that I feel bad for people with the attitude that a sorority is nothing more than a Greek-lettered status symbol. They're missing out on a lot of the joy that I've found in my sisters.

I'd like to think that a chapter invites a woman to membership because they believe that she will live up to its ideals. I'd like to think that they do this out of the desire to develop a friendship. I'd like to think that a woman joins a chapter because she feels she's found a home. I shudder to think of all the wonder I would have missed if I had gone to a different school, or even if I hadn't sucked it up and learned about an institution that I was convinced I didn't like. At a time when the Greek system is under fire, it is unfortunate that we are turning on each other, both between chapters and within them. All stereotypes are based in a certain amount of fact, and until we can minimize or eliminate that fact and convince people that being a sorority member is more than a stepping stone to Miss America and president of the Junior League, we're going to have an uphill fight to woo wonderful potential sisters out of hiding behind the walls of prejudice.

I love your sentiment, KappaKittyCat! I totally agree with you. That type of woman cares more for a name than for what that name means. I'm glad you are able to experience everything Kappa was meant to be!

Well, I joined my sorority and then transferred the next school year because I could not afford to remain at the school I attended. I would much rather transfer than drop out! I am still quite active in my sorority, too.

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Originally Posted by UNFSigmaChi (Post 227403)

Ok one thing that I hate is when girls(and sometimes this happens in fraternities too) rush a sorority just to get initiated and then transfer to a much larger school to affiliate with the chapter there because they know they wouldn't get a bid at the larger school. Why on earth would the person do this and why would the sorority allow them to pledge if they know its going to happen. This past fall a girl rushed Delta Gamma and got a bid, went through her new membership and got initiated. Well, everyone knew she was transferring to UF this fall but allowed her to become a sister anyways. Well DG here isn't the best sorority on campus as far as good looking girls, but at UF....DAMN! And she even admitted to joining DG at UNF just to affiliate with the "hot girl" sorority at UF. Why would a sorority allow this girl to become a sister if they knew this, and second, why would you want to affiliate with a sorority that when they obviously see you come fall, know that you won't fit in because your not in the "in" crowd. Are girls doing this, just that naive or what????? Help me out sorority girls!!!! :-)

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Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913 (Post 1720671)

5Knowledge, please don't take offense or even listen to the comments written by UNFSigmaChi. Its obvious in his post he was trying to diss one of the sororities at UNF. There are now five amazing sororities at UNF, all of which have beautiful and talented girls!