Okay..so can you tell me what was the actual purpose of your post? I read the posts in this thread, and the consensus was NPC and NPHC organizations do not haze. Period. Those chapters that you know of that haze are not representative of the hazing policies the organization at large has adopted.

And another thing....are you in a NPHC organization? If you are or aren't, your posts give off negative vibes about the Divine Nine. Why did it bother you that other posters were being inclusive about a standard "no hazing" policy??

Ummm. Okay...
 

Unless you are a member of an NPHC, or have witnessed the hazing firsthand, I really do not think you are qualified to make such a statement. I know some MIP (or paper as you referred to) NPHC members who command respect by their actions, and I know some underground pledged riff raff who no one respects, and vice versa.

When you join an NPHC organization, then you can talk (with knowledge) about what goes on, but until then, I don't think it is fair or intelligent to assume or state that no one who is NPHC gets respect unless they get the hell beat out of them. It is simply untrue.

-TRSimon
NPHC Member Since 1994

Hiya
 

I think he was just making a statement about greeklife at his school. He wasn't taking a side to either situation.

isatelatucr:

ask about the new member activities. if a chapter says they are secrets, then they are probably hazing. if they can tell you we have a bowling night, a social with a fraternity, etc, then they are less likely to haze. i was amazed at the responses i got at three of the four chapters at my school (all were NPC). one sister was like, of course i can't tell you that. a week or so into pledging, NMs of that group were pushing a car down the street while wearing robes and towels on their heads singing their songs. another chapter on my campus was considered "soft" because their pledges ONLY had to run laps around the campus in the middle of the night, clean sisters rooms, and had food thrown at them. so it is definately something that is alive and well, although it is not legal and not ok with the national office!!

Hazing is Hazing, and In This Today World, everything is Hazing!

I am against hazing but What actually is Hazing? Mental or Physcologlical! Or Both?

Yes to both questions!

We as members of the Greek Community have to look and think what the Outside World Sees when some one is killed or mutilated for being in a Greek Organization! This holds a cloud over all of us!

LXA banned Hazing just after I Graduated from Collge!

I did not allow Hazing when I started my Local so was no problem for me, I loved it!

Our Ritual has changed in many forms over the years to become more Brother / Sister Freindly, so , so be it!

I am still a Member of the Greek Community , or would not be here with all of you!

Thank goodness I am as have met many great people amd Brothers and Sisters on here!

Do any of you disagree???????

*snaps* well said!

Do you really believe that ALL national sororities don't haze?

I'm not talking about what's written down on paper, I'm talking about the reality of the situation.

Although I agree with what was mentioned in a previous thread, there is a distinct difference between being pledged and being hazed. I was pledged, I pledged my little sisters, and it's a strong foundation of what makes your chapter what it is.

My most bonding moments of my own sorority life come from the pledging process.

You want to know what happens when you haze at UCR? I know...
 

For Isatel, who made the first post about the hazing question, please take all the advice and information given to you by all these other people on Greek Chat to heart... They know what they're talking about.

I'm a senior at UCR, and this will be my fourth year as a proud member of Gamma Phi Beta. Trust me, the hazing question was on my mind as well... And it would be a lie if anyone during recruitment told you that "hazing does not happen on our campus or within our Greek community." That would be a blatant lie. My chapter, in the years I have been involved, has never once been brought up for hazing. We do not believe in it. When you hear fraternity men and other UCR students speak of what the new member period will be like, they will almost always say "you're going to be showered with gifts," and this is true. At least by the Panhellenic chapters on our campus.

I work for the Student Life and Leadership center as an assistant to one of the Directors. One of my duties is to help outline sanctions for various organizations, including Greek-lettered organizations. I can tell you that NONE of our 14 IFC and Panhellenic organizations have been brought to judicial hearings for hazing in the last year. I cannot say the same for non-IFC and Panhellenic chapters. And I'm proud to say that, especially in light of the recent tragedy at Cal State Long Beach which may have been a hazing incident.

When you come through recruitment, and I truly hope you do as we have 6 amazing NPC chapters on our campus, please ask questions... even if they may make the chapter members uncomfortable. Those members who have never experienced either side of hazing should be able to honestly and comfortably answer all of your questions.

If you ever want to talk, IM me- my AIM screen name is gphiangel624... I hope to see you during recruitment! It's nice seeing someone on here from our little city of Riverside!

:rolleyes:

Just for the record: My sorority isn't NPC or NPHC (it's actually NALFO) and we have a strict anti-hazing policy as well. We go by our 5 Pillars of: Honesty, Integrity, Leadership, Scholarship, and Unity!

To GPhiAngel624, about the CSULB incident, what was that all about? I went there for 2 years in the early/mid 90's and came across an organization that hazed really badly. PM me if you like or e-mail me at hsu_gammagirl@yahoo.com