Originally Posted by Blackwatch (Post 228715)

But I think that connection doesn't connotate an impetus of Alpha being in Masonry. Not anymore than any other frat. I'm sure that things like passwords, hailing signals, and grips probably had their origins in Masonry, but every frat has these things, including the white ones. (this message has been edited by Professor)

Originally Posted by BroFreemason (Post 1590858)

TRUTH

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1590891)

An overall lame thread at that.

Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1590937)

i did not think the thread was lame - i learned a great deal. let the man add to the thread - as long as he speaks in general terms - or he can send me pm.

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1591650)

I don't think the thread was lame either--it was very informative. But what did he add other than the word truth? Are you now a member of the Boule?

Interesting enough, if i didn't personally know some members of Omicron Boule (and trust they are not generally prominent) I would not know they existed. And while I understand that the org does not promote it's civic activities, for there to be no inkling at all here in the Twins is very telling, because our Black population it so relatively small.

What to me is sadder is that I had to find out about Raymond Cannon, and Hubert Humphrey being an honorary member from the book Divine Nine and greek message boards, because the alumni Alphas here became invisible years ago, except for an annual ball. What a information there is is on the Mu Chapter (collegiate) website.

It is the AKAs, Kappas, and Deltas that keep the NPHC alive in the Twins.

Originally Posted by Blackwatch (Post 205690)

Personnally, I do not see the big deal concerning the Boule'. It seems to me to be a situation where people want to join because it signifies some kind of status in the black community. Many may argue that it is the same way with the "Pan" orgs, but one thing that seperates the Boule' is that membership is truely an elitist priviledge, only by invitation with no smokers, interest meetings, or any opportunity for the public at large to join. This seems to heighten the interest in the group. You cannot possibly know the workings of the Boule' without having an interest in it, because they do no publicize their workings or philanthropies. Any claims to be a community serviced based org. are discredited when the membership is only extended to certain "types" of people (or people who have reached a certain "level of success" in a "professional" field, in other words, rich!!!). This is the elitism that has plagued the "pan" for years but was only speculative at best, while this elitism is verifiable through the Boule'. I am not one to say that any group cannot discriminate in its membership, but when you base membershhip on the criterion of financial success, I often wonder what real purpose can you serve the black community. How much of the black community can afford to be members? Your career success and financial standing are no commentary on nor indication of your moral character, if indeed moral character is something that they consider when extending membership. I read several posts on the message board of the Boule' website, and one post seemed to sum up the whole Boule' ideal when a man, who I guess was trying to become a member, states in a closing remark "...continue to aspire to the high ideals of success, prosperity, and blessings." High ideals of success, prosperity and blessings? Where are the manly deeds, self sacrifice, service, righteousness, brotherly love, and all other altruistic themes that characterize fraternity? It seems to me that the boule' is a bunch of financially succesful men who relish in the power that they have to discriminate on that basis, and to have people panting after inclusion into this group. The black community does not need a "country club" mentality from the "talented tenth" of the black community. The Boule' to me is nothing more than a glorified status symbol, devoid of much true worth to the black community.

And I will probably start another thread concerning Brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha wanting to be in this group. WHY?????!!!!!! :mad:
Blackwatch!!!

Originally Posted by 06pilot (Post 1591760)

Years ago, The Pan Greeks were more selective than they are today and in my personal opinion, the fact that we are not selective anymore is pat of the reason we get the wrong people in our iorganizations and they do stupid things that give our organization bad names.

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1591794)

How far back do you mean? Members have been doing stupid stuff (hazing) for over 40 years now to my recollection.