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Even if it's just 'blind' faith - which would mean taking one hypothesis as fact, and using it for the basis of other inferences - I'm interested to understand how your faith works. I'm not from the south, and midwestern religion (especially protestant churches) tends to be less in this vein. On a separate note - what are your feelings on issues such as evolution, etc? |
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Since a lot of GLO's are founded by Christian, Jewish, or other religious priciples, has that ever altered anyones decision on joining a particular GLO? Both of the GLO's I've been in were founded on Christian principles, however I have had several atheist and Jewish sisters/brothers. It would seem to me that if I was of non-christian belief and I found out that the GLO I wanted to join was founded on Christian beliefs, that would be somewhat of a turn-off to me. Same case with the vice-versa.
Totally unrelated to the above, but it does have to do with sprirituality. Being "saved" or "borned again" is a big thing in Christianity. Has anyone ever gotten "saved" and then backslid to your old ways or known someone who has? According to scripture, what would happen to that person, spiritually? |
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hummmm.....I'm not aware of your statement about the Bible saying the value of pi is 3, so I can't speak on it. Maybe I'll do some additional research and get back to ya! To answer your question, yes, that is exactly what I believe. Quote:
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I'm really enjoying this thread and how most people can share without being mean.
Well, I was born Catholic, and was raised that way til I was 9. Then bounced from church to church til I was 13/14. Those churches were non-denominational, charismatic, etc. Also visited Baptist churches. At the first church after being catholic I was "born again" I never felt it tho and felt confused and left out when everyone else "spoke in tongues"....so I just faked it [besides their premise was that the holy spirit came upon the apostles which enabled them to speak foreign tongues----it's since been studied by linguists showing that these christians practicing glossolalia are NOT speaking a language...mostly saying repetitions] Church was a place for me to belong since I was a geek at school. I was at the point of attending services 3 times a week plus youth night. But then I just left...I wasn't getting anything out of it. Now, I consider myself agnostic. I think there is something there...god, goddess, singular or plural. who am I to say what it is? I believe that Jesus existed and that he did perform miracles...but that doesn't make him son of a god(although it is possible). I believe the bible was written by men....i've been told (by a Prof) that Genesis alone was written by at least 3 authors (shown through research--and by more than one person) I believe in evolution - we are not descended from apes, but we have a common ancestor. Really now, look at the tremendous similarities between us and chimps. I also think this does not have to conflict with the Creation theory either since The Bible does not state how long a day is to God ; a day to god could be 100 yrs to humans. I believe that the afterlife is whatever we think it is (kind of like that Robin Williams film "what dreams may come') I also believe in reincarnation. I believe in a lot of stuff....In one course I took(myth in literature) my Prof believed that ppl today are just looking for something to believe since the Industrial and scientific revolutions took religion as it was known away from many. That's why recently there has been a resurrgence of traditional religions as well as New Age spirituality and other outlets for ppl. Its human nature to want to know where we belong and how we, as a people, came here any way, that's my opinion. BTW i didn't capitilize many words just cuz I'm lazy, not from disrespect. |
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I honestly don't know WHAT I am. I have my own religion I guess.
St Thomas Aquinas-It's better to believe- if you die and heaven and hell don't exist no problem you'll never know. If you die and lived without thought of God and his teachings-YOU IN BIG TROUBLE MAN! Opinion on those who doubt the existance of God- The stronger faith is to those who queston and search for reasons to believe in the existance of God and return a believer than to follow without conviction and never question at all. Logic theory-Compared the universe, a well ordered system, to a machine. All machines have an inventor therefore the universe must have a creator. Yes simplified because it's from 25 year old memory. What do I believe? I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit ( the three leaf clover) Saints can and do intercede for us---miracles Heaven and Hell (devil and agents of the devil) This is where I vere off course Karma!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG TIME BELIEF Soulmates I HOPE reincarnation How you live your life is more important than what church you attend (or don't attend) The soul is energy if you die with positive energy you will be drawn to the purest form of energy (heaven) Otherwise you return and learn the next lesson. Souls that can't or won't leave and being able to communicate with them. Some people have their hell on earth I know some of these are at odds with each other, but this is it-can't explan it-don't need to defend it. When the kids were little it was pure Catholic teachings all the way. They need to have their own journey. |
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I think that too much we end up being "religious" as opposed to "spiritual". Meaning that when your religious, you are ALL into the church and church functions and whatnot, but you don't pray and TALK to God. Then there are those that are spiritual, very intuned with God, they pray, read the Bible, and lead a Godly life. I think that its more important to be "spiritual" than "religious", because, God wants you to be intimate with Him, not an organization or a pastor, HIM. I'm not saying church is completely useless, because He does say in the Bible to congregate with fellow believers, but at the same time, Too often church leaves me spiritually lacking. I get more from just talking to people about God than I do going to church. Too much tim eis spent on stupid stuff. And a lot of times, the church is full of people who sin all week, come to church, get all happy, then leave out talking bout the lady with the orange bird on her hat. WHAT??? I mean, no one is perfect and we won't be for a while, but come on. At the church I go to know, its...okay, but I don't feel anything there. Not saying I'ma give up on church, but I need to find one where I FEEL God. |
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Ahhh, the first point I can actually relate to . . . (thanks JAM) It's all enthalpy and entropy, thermodynamic stability and natural order. I feel that when you try to find your religious niche, this sort of 'fitting God into the universe' approach works faaaaar better than 'fitting the universe into God'. Evolution will suddenly WORK(!) if you just let your belief structure work within the frame of the world, and not the other way around. I have serious problems understanding the Deus Ex Machina form of religion . . . but it has just as much a chance of being 'correct' as anything else, I suppose, just not for me. |
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my question was of the story of job - i've always had a problem with it. The question: Why did God feel he needed to prove to Satan that Job was the most righteous? I know it's a story, but it terrifies and depresses me. Essentially, God says, oh look at Job, he's so great, Satan says - if you tested him, he'd break, God tests him...Was God being a little insecure there? I was too drunk when I wrote the post initially to have made my question clear. |
There was a user named DeeGeePee? Now that's something I could see IHQ commenting about -- who wants to be associated with PEE?
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This is a really interesting thread from before my time on GC. Somebody commented about the issue of "denominationalism" in Christianity, which I think is really interesting and fascinating. One of my best friends in the world will not consider me a Christian (I'm a Catholic) because I don't believe in salvation by faith alone. I really feel like the issue of denominationalism is a particularily Protestant and fundamentalist issue - or maybe I should say evangelical? I don't know of any Catholic or Orthodox churches that place a heavy issue on it.
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