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lovelyivy84 07-01-2002 12:24 PM

I don't remember ever being really "innocent".

I mean, there were things that I did NOT know about, and was very sheltered from in terms of actual experience, but I think I was born a cynic.

Closest I can come to a 'moment' though is in 6th grade, when I heard the song OPP and realised that the 'p' word meant a woman's genitals. I told a girl in my class, expecting her to be all shocked and stuff, and she just gave me this look, like "and?"

That was the day I realised that SOME people I knew were definitely past kissing and holding hands.

Actually I am wrong. I DO remember. The first day of school at my new predominately rich, white private school in fourth grade. I came from a predominately hispanic catholic school where my Mom taught and everyone knew me and loved me. That first day at the new school I was practically a pariah- new, black and poor? I tried for a while, but no one there was interested in getting to know who I was until about ninth grade and at that point I was so ANGRY at all of them that I wasn't interested in letting them in.

APhi 07-01-2002 01:14 PM

Actually, I'm in my mid 20's and I think I'm experiencing my biggest loss of innocence now or at least over the last couple of years. For example I lost my first real job this spring in a lay off. I had a Director look me in the eye and tell me he felt my roll in the company was very important. A week later I was escorted out of the building by security because my position had been eliminated. Turns out this Director was way over budget and trying to save his own ass... Only to get fired a month after I was let go.
A couple of months before that I was arrested for the first and hopefully only time in my life. Rather not go into the story.
The other setbacks have been smaller but still rather real. Anyway, I'm finding that the real world out of college is a bigger, meaner, colder place than I ever would have believed. Everything isn't coming together the way it was supposed to I'm not where I always thought I'd be. I'm up to my ears in student loans and credit card debt. My entry level salaries don't buy the life I'd like to live.. or even close. I think this is commonly referred to as the quarter life crisis and that I'm not alone in this. Still... it sure does suck.
Anyway, my whole point is that there is no one moment that signifies a loss of innocence. It's not something you'll get through in high school or college or just beyond and move on from. It's an ongoing process throughout our lives as we suffer little indignities every day, week and year. Oh well. I truly believe that I learn something new every day of my life. As long as I keep learning those lessons I'll grow progressively less innocent but hopefully a whole lot stronger!

greeklawgirl 07-01-2002 01:40 PM

I remember the day I lost my innocence like it was yesterday--July 24, 1992. It was the day my uncle drowned while on vacation at a beach in Mexico.

It was the first time I had ever lost anyone close to me, but his death touched off a series of events in my family that is still too painful for me to talk about for long. We are still feeling the effects of his passing 10 years later.

I had to do a lot of growing up that summer, but I guess that's life. None of us remain untouched.

UF_Pike 07-01-2002 04:17 PM

I dont think I've ever been innocent. I've always been ahead of the game with people my age. I was the little boy on the play ground that all the little girls chased. I was the little boy who somehow got a porn from the older guys and showed it to all the other boys my age and tried to explain to them what you call each part of the womans body. I was the little boy in little league football who scored the touch downs and blew kisses at the little cheerleaders.Even when i was young i was telling my peers how to act cool in front of the little girls, what they like and how to play the quite cool. I opened the eyes of individuals and not just boys. I had to explain several times to girls in the 6 & 7th grade what actually takes place when a boy and girl lay in bed together. Many mommies called mine up to tell her that her son was informing their daughters about things they didnt need to hear at their age.

I was the first true pimp when I was in 5th grade. I had this girl that was smokin hot at the time, in a 5th graders eyes. She had long blonde hair, being in 5th grade it was real. She had the biggest boobies out of all the 5th grade girls. I was shocked that she was even with me at the time, she mostly only talked to the boys in 6th grade. Our parents knew each other, even though the school was large it was still private. We went to the movies one time and I'll never forget this. While watching the movie i was all big into holding hands, then she kissed me and grabbed my hand and put it on her BOOBS!!!!! Immediately my hands started sweating and I started having short inhalations of air. This may have been the first time my penis got seriously hard. I had only seen this done in the magazines. This lasted for the remainder of the movie and i believe it was "who framed roger rabbit" cause i was 11 years old when it came out.

When our moms came and picked us up from the movie theater, she gave me a kiss on the cheek for her look innocent, but i knew right off the bat why she did that, to make it look as though nothing happened. Being the little stud I was, I told my mom. I was proud of my adventure yet at the same time I wasnt sure what really just happened to me. My mom asked, "how was the movie?" I told her it was "fine, but jessica made me touch her chest the whole time." My mom swirved and almost killed both of us, people were blowing their horns left and right. She gave me a hug and asked me if I'm alright. She said, "dont you worry son, you dont have to see her again." When we got home my dad and some of his friends were in his library/den having some brandy and smoking cigars. She told them what had just happened and my dad started busting out laughing, his friends were going hysterical. Meanwhile my mom got pissed and went in the other room. She had thought i had been violated and was trying to comfort her son. Little did she know, i was already playing a game to keep her thinking i'm her little angel and the sweetest little boy. She had no idea that I was actually teaching the other kids about women. The next day at school my little click didnt believe me when i told them what happened. Being as hot as the girl was, it was very hard to beilieve. (She's now a model in california. I think she's done some work for calvin Klein.) Finally when we had recess jessica came up to me and gave me another kiss, they believed me after that. And thus began the many adventures of UF_Pike.

It was funny though, whenever I moved to another city, so did her family and somehow we ended up going to the same schools, except for 2 years. I dated her in the 8th grade....10th and 11th grades also. We are still friends to this day and keep in contact.

Even though I had many exp. like the one above in the years to follow, I honestly think that my eyes opened when i came to college. 2 years ago i finally realized why most middle aged men dont think women have common sense. I dated this girl in college for 1 and 1/2 to 2 years and she sorta was the eye opening incident. I talked to my dad and some of his friends and they simply replied, " Son, you must have been dating this girl for some time now huh?" I thinks it's one of those thing you only find out by expierence... they all said it doesnt get any better from here on out. They all said I should cherish these last few years in college. I only hope my son/s will one day have the heads up knowledge that has been passed down from generation to generation by the males in my family. This is why i MUST marry a smart chick, I'm not going to have my son/s running around life aimlessly, wondering how to hook up with a female.

alphachiohmy 07-01-2002 04:56 PM

Not meaning to be cliche, but it had to have been September 11, when I say evil at its worst form.

douthit 07-01-2002 06:16 PM

Two experiences stand out in my mind, one being the day that my grandfather died when I was a sophomore in high school. He had been sick for a long time with cancer, but it still never struck me that he would ever be gone, i guess i was just being naive. I think that was the last time that I've cried. It was amazing to see how many people attended, since he was pretty much an icon in the small town of Forsyth, Montana.

Another thing that never really hit me until much later was when my mother first explained to me about an older brother of mine who died when he was an infant. It was so weird to see for the first time a tombstone that had my last name on it in the local cemetary, it really freaked me out. One cool thing though was that I was able to be initiated into Phi Sigma Kappa on what would have been his 21st birthday.

Also, to echo other's comments, September 11th hit many of us hard, me included. It didn't hit me heavy when I first heard the news, because it was too crazy to believe. But when I watched the news afterward, and saw video of the towers crumbling, that's when I realized our nation would never ever be the same again.

phikappapsiman 07-02-2002 01:17 AM

Two things for me:

First off, when I was in 6th grade, and there was this girl that I liked (her name was Brenda). I thought that she was so cute. But suddenly she stopped coming to school-I later found out that year that she became pregnant! Pregnant in the 6th grade! I had no idea about sex, much less that a classmate of mine was going to be a mother at 12 years old:(

Second thing was when I was in the 8th grade. My family had moved from Los Angeles to Memphis, TN., and I was bused to a school out of my neighborhood in a mostly lower to middle class white area. Anyway, I missed my school bus one day and had to take the city bus. As I was walking to the bus stop, a bunch of white teenagers drove by and started yelling "Nigger, Nigger" at me. I was so scared, because I had never experienced that before, and I thought that they were going to get out of the car and beat me up. I ran to the bus stop, and luckily there were other people there. I cried all the way home, and I didn't want to go back to school ever again. I didn't know why someone could hate me without even knowing me. That really showed me that the world has some really messed up people.

josh8o 07-02-2002 06:12 AM

for me i think it would be when i finally moved away to school...

i was sheltered as a child, and growing up there were so many things i didn't know about. when i moved away from my parents, and the small town i grew up in i learned so much about the world. i had everything i needed, and came from you stereotypical American family- parents happily married, white picket fence, golden retrievers, a strong sense of family, and the feeling that all the "bad stuff" i would see on the news was a world away...
it wasn't until college that i learned what simple things like "layaway" were. i think i also lost it when an older girl played me.... there was this girl from a certain sorority on campus who i got to know from another girl in her house. anyway, we had some fun, but then i started to fall for her. i thought she liked me too, but when she never returned my calls, and acted like i didn't exists i knew...

xok85xo 07-02-2002 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UF_Pike
This may have been the first time my penis got seriously hard.
wow buddy, that was definately not something i wanted to read while eating my breakfast at 7:45 in the morning. TMI


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