AXO moderator- I have so much respect for you because you are a great moderator but from two of your posts re:

"the quote about 2nd largest only to the Girl Scouts has been over-used" ..AXO

is being a little bias-don't you think?

For all that my sisters and I have gone thru-don't you think we are allowed to get a little excited about being second to a wonderful organization like the Girl Scouts?

One day- an AXO might be president- I hope you and your sisters boast about it constantly!!!!! and I will be right there celebrating with you- because we are all Greek. Sue

Hey baylorchio... not really replying to your post, but just saying hi to a fellow Baylor Bear! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Chi Omega Fraternity (the NAtional HQ) states that Chi Omega is the "Largest Women's Fraternal Organization."

Interpret as you will. I agree subtle differences are key, and that's what makes it not lying.

JAYBEE-

The internet is a wonderful source of information and research. I do not, however, believe that a public message board that is subject to the poster's opinions and own misinformation is the best source for this type of quatifiable information. I beleive you yourself said you have seen these various staements through out the board- why would you think you would get a different answer to ask the question in Greek Life? The same initial posters could easily come in here and give you the SAME CONFLICTING ANSWERS! I believe this not only for this question but for any specific infomration about any org. Look at the source. While I know I have many wonderful Sorrs on this board, YOU do not know many of us and therefore are seeking information form an unknown source. All of these posts are annonymous and not the place to put all your reliance. I mean would you quote "I read it on Greekchat" in a paper, article work memo, etc. as your reliable, credible source? Not that i believe that we generally give misinformation on purpse here on GC, but really now, not the basket wehre I am putting my egs. Furhter, many of the responses came form people who were not members of neither DST or XO. Again, answers certainly not coming rorm the source. If knowing this particular truth is of that much importance, the best place to resolve your dilema would have been through the websites of the organizations and their chapters.

Beyond that, I think this question is difficult for anyone to answer outside of National Headquarters. A simple web search will reveal that
1. DST and XO are not the only Sororities to have themselves listed as the largest on thier websites; and
2. Often, these claims come with subtle distinctions.

DST is called "the larget NPHC Sorority" or "the largest Sororirty founded by and comprised of predominantl African-American women" This, is everyday conversation, particularly amongst Balck Greeks may be reduced to simply "the largest Sorority" in ther relevant frame of reference. DST has also been hailed as the "largest service Sorority" as we were specifically founded for that purpose and have excelled as a private, non-profit service Sorority for the last 88 years.

Another distinction I have found has been that of National v. International and members v. chapters. I have found references to DZ as the largest Sorority internationally and the 2nd largest Nationally. I have found references to XYZ having the most chpaters and ABC having the most members.

I do not think, given the body of data and possible, credible interpretations of your query that the question was sufficiently crafted to yeild the answer you were seeking.

If you are that concerned with diseminating misinformation- don't give any at all. No one needs you to be their Greek org encyclopedia and no answer is definitely better than the wrong one.

TO the rest_

I think many of you have misread and misinterpreted my SOrors reactions. We hold our beloved Sorority VERY dear to our hearts. We do not see the need for the comparison at all and find that comparisons between NPC and NPHC orgs are frequently not based on the same frame of reference. To see a post that thoroughly mis-states information about our orginization b a non-mmeber is ironic since the point of this entire thread was to stop the disemination of misinformation. I mean when we talk about he fear of telling someone a lie- PLEASE! We are not talking national security here. No one is maliciaously calling DST or XO the largest Sorority. The lying aspect is realy not that deep.

BTW- I am not jumping down anyone's throat. Just likeit may be your opinion that Iam, what I have written here is my opinion. Accept my opinion as that and I will do the smae for you. You have give respect to get respect.

I'm trying to figure out the point. Where and how did Chi Omega get into the mix of a numbers game compared to Delta Sigma Theta? Though we are both sororities, there is a vast difference. No disrespect to Chi Omega because I don't know there history but I do know that we are the largest sorority of BGLOs.

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Then all I have to say is, in all honesty and politeness, is that if you react to something as innocent is this, then I'd hate to be around when something really bad happens to you. You're treating SAE like he killed your dog or something!

Not really no I was not. You took one post and made a judgement about me. I could infer things about you based on your two posts but I choose not too. WOuld it have been better if the post had not been in all caps. In conclusion: WHATEVER!!

Actually I do place some credability in in this forum but like all forms of media, you have to make your own decisions on what's being claimed by any organizations members or the web. So when stated the previous controversal statement, it was to make an attempt or place an effort towards stopping the "the disemination of misinformation" Not saying that it would be successful but saying that more people know a little bit more right now.

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Everyone claims to be first, largest whatever...from what I know as a Theta, and from the research that I've done. Pi Phi's were founded before Thetas, but they weren't founded with greek letters, they were a women's organization. Theta was the first to address themselves with Greek letters, making it "the first greek letter fraternity known among women" there were women's groups before Theta, but it wasn't until after Theta used "Fraternity" and Greek Letters, did the other organizations re-name themselves. That is why on the NPC shield of badges, Theta's is on Top, in the middle.

Thank you AlphaChiGirl. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

My post was not meant to create tension. I'm not sure how it was interpreted as such. Unbunch those panties ladies. I said I have seen Deltas boast about being the largest, and it is true. If it will make you feel better, I have seen members of the other organizations boast about various other things. I'm sure all of us have tooted our horns about one thing or another.

OTOTOTOTOTOTOTOT

I don't mean to nit pick, but did they really teach you that!?! If you look at the NPC shield http://www.npcwomen.com/memorg.htm there is clearly a goal of symmetry. Theta's badge is only similar to ADPi's and KD's. ADPi's balances out towards the bottom and KD on the left. It's cool though that yours is centered above the NPC name. Mine is centered directly underneath; makes it really easy to point out. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

I got into this pissing contest earlier this summer, and I think Crimsontide4 is right, Its all about the Sisterhood/brotherhood, and in TKE the Fraterhood...........Pretty much its all bout yo hood......

PS. TKE has over 400 chapters internationally(thats a low estimate, If its really that important I can look it up for yall). So we piss the farthest..............

I believe the main issue is with people that are not members of DST posting info about them and on top of that posting incorrect info. I think the best thing to do is if you are not a member of a certain org DO NOT post info about that org because you will never know as much about it as a member would. How would you feel if someone asked a question about you and some random person answered the question for you and gave incorrect info? You wouldn't be all smiles and joy would you?

Think about that next time you decide to jump down someones throat for taking offense to an incorrect post you made.

-ONE-

By Jove, I think someone has got it!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif

Thank You!!



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