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Originally Posted by UnfortunateGDI (Post 2286023)

anytime now, someone will give a relevant answer and it won't be some bitter angry sorority girls who are likely past their prime and mad about seeing someone make something out of their lives.

Ahhhhhhh.....ok. I know who this guy is now. As soon as I read this post I recognized his writing and realized that this is the same guy from earlier this year:

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Originally Posted by Signed up user

Come on now, everyone knows what some of the female users were doing was not giving advice. Being 26 and having lots of social experience I know how gender relations work. A lot of these female users were probably in sororities back in their college days and were at their peak. Then graduation came and they had to move on to the real world which can be one cold place. They long for those days when they were in a sorority and at their peak but those days will never come for them because they are long past their prime. As a result of all that they see a guy like me who through very unfortunate circumstances (poverty, strict parenting, etc.) wants to have a chance at being in a fraternity and it destroys them on the inside for someone to try and find happiness in that scene.

I didn't want to go there but I had to, this isn't about giving another perspective a try. This is a thread about fraternities and yes ideally I would like to hear from guys in a fraternity and not females who are likely away from their sorority days.

Nothing is going to stop me from trying, I do know that 26 isn't that old and I have no issues being around 18-22 year old guys because I can relate to them. Most guys my age are settling down and having families, they don't like the idea of drinking and partying. I never had a chance to enjoy that, ever, so that is one of the reasons I want to be in a fraternity along with others such as belonging to a brotherhood of like minded men who just want to enjoy life.

IN b4 female user tries to get the last word and is still in denial about the fact that she is well past her prime.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=141504

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2286193)

Ahhhhhhh.....ok. I know who this guy is now. As soon as I read this post I recognized his writing and realized that this is the same guy from earlier this year:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=141504

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I actually thought to myself, "He sounds like someone else who posted here not too long ago," but I couldn't find the thread. My limited detective skills have failed me lately. :p

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2286194)

I actually thought to myself, "He sounds like someone else who posted here not too long ago," but I couldn't find the thread. My limited detective skills have failed me lately. :p

Yes! I thought his speeches started to sound like deja vu and my gut told me he's been here under another name. And there he was, 26 year old immigrant STEM student who wants to join a fraternity at Arizona State.

I want to know what country he came from so we can, like, not let any more people in from there.

;) We don't need anymore xenophobia in the USA.

Fraternities also don't need anymore sexist patriarchal pigs who are too lazy to do a Google search and resort to gendered stereotypes (he most likely wouldn't have told men they are "chatty, past their prime fraternity boys").

This pig played me. I had no idea about the other thread. I PM'd him about the Masons as I was raised in a Masonic family. He basically said "thanks but no thanks". I'm glad he is not interested in the Masons. I couldn't believe what he wrote about sorority women in his thread. I have never been so insulted, not as a sorority woman but also as a woman over 50. I don't thank there is a fraternity or fraternal organization in the world that would take him. What a jerk!!!

I just found this link on the Greek Life forum. I know it's a different school but it sound very familiar

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=143411

I don't think that's the same guy unless his English deteriorated and then picked up again.

And DrPhil, you know I'm just kidding (sort of).

I know at least one of the service greeks gives chapters the option to have grad students join, but he did say "a group of guys".

Are there any social fraternities/sororities (defined as exempt from Title IX and thus single gender) that allow their chapters to have students going for a masters/doctorate to join?

For example, would a grad student at Howard University be able to go on line with the undergrads for Kappa Alpha Psi (or any NPHC) or should they go Grad Chapter?

For NPC sororities that allow AI, would a grad student be able to go AI? (Yes, I know the original poster is a guy)

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2286249)

Are there any social fraternities/sororities (defined as exempt from Title IX and thus single gender) that allow their chapters to have students going for a masters/doctorate to join?

For example, would a grad student at Howard University be able to go on line with the undergrads for Kappa Alpha Psi (or any NPHC) or should they go Grad Chapter?

It depends. The general rule is alumnae/alumni/graduate membership "intake, initiation, and affiliation". If that person is allowed to "affiliate" with the collegiate chapter, that is on a case-by-case basis and blahzeyblah.

College graduates should contact the NPHC GLOs without the hope or expectation that they will be allowed to go through intake and initiation with the collegiate chapter. That can be interpreted as someone who is trying to live as a collegiate (happens quite often). :)

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2286249)

For example, would a grad student at Howard University be able to go on line with the undergrads for Kappa Alpha Psi (or any NPHC) or should they go Grad Chapter?

I'll agree that it depends on an organization and situational basis. Once someone graduates from undergrad, the norm is pursuit of a alumni/alumnae chapter. Once you cross the stage, it's normally a done deal. I have heard of cases where people have had combined processes, but they are still initiated in separate chapters. There are always different circumstances, but that's why we tell people to, "Do their research." ;)

OK, so for the NPHCs, it's organizational, situational, case-by-case, and may have separate answers for who officially runs the line, and what chapter they will actually be joining. (And no one outside the city where the college exists is guaranteed to know what the answer is)

Gotcha!

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2286249)

For NPC sororities that allow AI, would a grad student be able to go AI? (Yes, I know the original poster is a guy)

Every group has different policies for AI so I won't make any blanket statements, but I seem to recall a cute story about a woman who didn't join a sorority in undergrad but became the house mom for Alpha Gamma Delta while in grad school at the University of Illinois and then joined them through AI while still in grad school. So I'd say that it is possible, but again networking and research is crucial. Whether a grad student could join a chapter of undergrads is an entirely different can of worms that I couldn't even begin to get into.

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2286249)

For NPC sororities that allow AI, would a grad student be able to go AI? (Yes, I know the original poster is a guy)

Yes, a grad student can generally AI; however, she would NOT be joining and participating in a collegiate chapter as an active. She would be an alumna member of an alumnae chapter - thus the term alumna initiate. I think there may only be 1-2 NPCs which "might" allow graduate students to join a collegiate chapter. That's a different situation from AI.

You missed some options. Some NPC sororities will accept graduate students as full voting collegiate members. Some will accept them as non-voting collegiate members. I don't know everyone's policies, but I would wager that this is not the norm across the NPC (it was on my campus).

There are always local fraternities, too, who can initiate whomever they want.