Really? Lordy, I am clutching my mama's double strand....

That I posted it, that it happens or that I like it? :p

I can't say "how awful for the PNMs to be snubbed like that" because it's probably easier on them than trying to make small talk with someone who's being "technically" polite but who obviously does not want you there.

I don't know how they get away with it, but there are a lot of things from school to school that I don't understand.

Wait. How is it okay for us to tell the PNMs to be polite to every chapter and that they are GUESTS, and yet we can not extend the same courtesy to them?

That you posted that. And AZTheta put it perfectly.

We had an epic thread about the dance party and Texas rush last year that was deleted. It was an eye opener. :eek:

There is also Glitter Dusting and Piggy Back Rides IIRC.

I'm not clutching because of what goes on there - I already know all that. I'm clutching because of what 33Girl said. Am totally flabbergasted still...

Yea, I'm having a hard time with telling PNMs to respect all groups and behave politely and then winking or condoning absolutely dismissive behavior from actives who are supposed to be living up to standards.

I wondered when I first heard this, and I wonder now...where is nationals for this group and the piggy back group?

Y'all are reading me the wrong way. I'm not saying this is the way sorority women should act, nor do I approve of it. But you know the expression "let your freak flag fly"? These girls are letting their jerk (that's not the 4 letter word I wanted to use) flag fly. And there are probably rushees who are a lot less hurt because of it. Quite frankly, the thing that has me clutching my pearls is that they act like this and still remain high in the campus's social pecking order. Or their national group's good graces. Those are the groups that should be condemning this action, not me. But those groups apparently don't mind, so yeah, if you are that kind of closed minded snob, I'd rather know straight up.

I don't know which groups these are (for all I know it could be my own) but my first guess would be that the UT alumnae are in some way more powerful that the national organization. If they weren't the national organization would have stopped it by now.

I think we just need to agree that we are on different wave lengths and there is little hope that they will ever cross. And on the rare times they have, I have questioned myself.

Well, I think we both agree that these girls are jerks for being so closed minded. We merely differ on when and how we prefer they convey that fact.

Look at it this way:

My BFF comes over to my home, with another person that I don't particularly care for in tow. BFF may or may not know my feelings, but that is immaterial. I welcome them BOTH in, I serve them both refreshments, I include BOTH of them in the conversation. Other Person has no clue that I do not particularly care for him/her. I am treating Other Person the way my grandmother taught me to treat people. Everyone is a GUEST in your home, and you behave accordingly. I don't put Other Person outside with the dogs and put BFF in the living room, we all sit in the kitchen or on the back patio and have a nice visit.

Other Person leaves with a good impression of my hospitality and hopefully me (depends on how the dogs behave, truthfully. They can be difficult with people at times). I may privately inform BFF never to do that again, but while it's happening, I'm on my best behavior.

The end.

Not touching the HQ/alum piece of this situation. Sticking to my basic point: good manners are good manners.

It comes down to which is worse: knowing you have zero interest in a PNM and making her talk to you and try to impress you for twenty minutes, or knowing you have zero interest in a PNM and just ignoring her altogether?

Whatever happened to being gracious? Has that gone completely out the window?

And I'm NOT clutching pearls. I'm simply pointing out that that behavior is bad manners. Period.

ETA: I quit.