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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2275257)

Did you mean their Facebook or their tumbler? I didn't see a regular website.

Daviswiki

From http://daviswiki.org/lambda_Delta_Lambda:

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I was unfortunate enough to be nearby when this particular Sorority held a "fundraiser" this evening at a nearby art collective space. The music was overly loud and offensive and the presence of weed and booze was obvious. one of the members who described herself as a recent "pledge" was obviously intoxicated, wearing a safety vest and propeller beanie was observed acting in a shamefully confrontational manner towards a local theater troupe member rehearsing in an adjacent space. The art collective (host to many amazing local programs i.e. flea market, yoga lessons, live music, local theater etc...) according to it's standing policy does not condone nor permit alcohol consumption on its premises, and not to mention weed and/or other recreational substances. I'm just weighing in to say what a shamefully poor image this organisation has put forward to the community.

As an actual member of the LGBT community (Lesbian and PROUD!) I resent that such a group of obvious mentally challenged delinquents should present themselves as a force for good in the face of our struggles as a community. Yet ANOTHER shining example of how the mentally challenged flock to these organizations for solace. Shame on you Lambda Delta Lambda.
As if this alone were reason enough to shy from this group, i observed more than one person leaving (driving) away from this party quite obviously drunk as hell... one car in particular nearly striking a passing bicyclist and pedestrian. Local police were notified of the incident as it appeared to be a genuine hazard to the local community unfortunate enough to be afoot near this event.

I also found this statement from the official Lambda Delta Lambda website-apparently they're not an exclusively-collegiate group. Not sure if that has any impact on their ability to join CPC.

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As an all-inclusive sorority we accept UC Davis alumni, community members, and any other amazing people who may want to have fun and enact change with our amazing members.

ClemsonGirl, that LDL party is the kind of thing that drives university officials to mandate that all social Greek orgs be a part of an oversight council. Major risk management issue, obviously.

Somewhere in my 5 whole minutes of research into LDL last night, I saw mention of an "associates" status for people who didn't fit their requirements for membership. Maybe that's where the random, non-student folks fit into their inclusiveness. Because whether they are part of CPC or not, I can't imagine a recognized student organization being allowed to have members who were not part of the campus student community. And that "associate" thing is an end-around for a university rule that is there for good reason.

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva (Post 2275258)

My understanding is that the term sorority was coined to mean a 'fraternity for women', and if so, then by definition the term sorority implies a fraternal group of women. As in people with two (2) X chromosomes.

That is how the word came into common usage, but Sir Thomas More and others used it back in the early 16th Century to mean "sisterhood" (primarily in a religious sense—"fraternity" also had a primarily religious since then).

Given the self-description of Lambda Delta Lambda quoted above:

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Lambda Delta Lambda is a local sorority, comprised of a fun-loving, queer friendly, sisterhood with open minds. We regard ourselves as not being the typical sorority and are open to students of all sexualities and gender identities. While we are a Greek organization our message to the campus and community is one of acceptance and hope for equality.

I would not be surprised if the sorority is co-ed primarily in the sense that it welcomes people who are chromosomally-male but who self-identify as female.

That sort of thing is exactly why they SHOULDN'T be on Panhel. If it's about securing meeting space, they can't if they have non-student members. That's true for ALL groups.

uhhh, about their tumblr username....

Oh, that just stands for Fraternal Undergraduate Community of Kindness. :p

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2275277)

Oh, that just stands for Fraternal Undergraduate Community of Kindness. :p

Fraternal Undergraduate Community of Kindness YEAH, you mean. LOL.

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Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2275159)

Please.... council, not counsel :-)

Dang spell chick (check). :o

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2275158)

Since Clemson has multiple groups that could be Panhellenic affiliates but are not, I'm curious: what benefit do these groups get out of Panhellenic affiliation versus not being Panhellenic associates?

First off, at UK “social” GLOs are required to belong to a council. Another requirement is that “social” GLOs must have a national board (i.e. national HQ). So there are no locals (i.e. one chapter only) at UK. As such, this is mainly about administrative oversight (risk management etc.).

As I understand it, the benefit is mainly the support (financial and otherwise) they receive that is similar to all “social” GLOs. An example is that the three affiliate members are included in the official UK Sorority recruitment guide, along with the NPC and NPHC chapters. Their information is also included on the official campus websites for (and listed under) “social” GLOs etc. They also have access to any discounts or funds for speakers etc. that NPHC/NPC/NIC/IFC GLOs have as well. These are just a few that I know of. What other benefits they might receive, I’m not sure.