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DrPhil 09-16-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240464)
You are wise. You know I am right.

Exactly.

No justice, no peace.

Psi U MC Vito 09-16-2013 01:49 PM

Just because I want to put off contracts, I'm going to respond to this.
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Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack (Post 2240467)
I am waiting for you to tell me YOUR methods for lowering crime. Do you plan on organizing another "stop the violence" rally?

There are many tools that can be used. Gun buybacks, community policing, and yes strong social pressure. There are a lot of factors involved in creating violence, and a lot of factors needed to reduce it. One of those is the popular media, which is overwhelmingly controlled by upper class Caucasians and targeted at middle class Caucasians.


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Tell me ANY method that works for YOUR people and we will use it.
You mean well educated middle class Americans? Because that is what I am. Caucasian does not always mean affluent, just as non-Caucasian does not always mean impoverished.

And to address your other two points, I will say this. First while 500 deaths a year (which is an inaccurate number) is a tragedy, compared to population, it only works out to about 6.3 per 100K people, which is lower then many other cities. Second, stop and frisk requires reasonable suspension which is actually even a lower standard then probable cause, which is part of the problem. If you look at the number, the majority of people stopped are Hispanic or Black, yet the majority of seizures occur for Caucasian suspects.
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Your main disadvantage is bad parenting.
Shit. I can't imagine how far I would have gone by now if I have only had good parenting. I guess being a first generation college graduate isn't enough.

Tom Earp 12-15-2013 03:54 PM

Have any of you walked in the shoes of either those who stopped them or those who were stopped?:confused:

Been there as a COP. Started in 1969 and that is when riots started. Worked in the North end, namely Black area. Had no problem as I got along with the people.
Worked Western area, mostly white area.
I stopped people when I saw a law broken, I didn't care who they were. They screwed up, I went after the, period.

But yes some others were not me!

If a certain group causes problems then that skews guys minds. It boild down, certain groups be on guard or maybe get shot/killed.

Have any of you been shot? I have, guess what it hurt, DAH!:eek:


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