Lane-swerving, but:

You and most others posting here, as women experienced with how NPC recruitment and colonization work, understand that. But the student in college who wants to be Greek and who isn't nearly as familiar with how NPC recruitment and colonization work may not understand that, and may read much more than intended into a statement like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekdee (Post 2203349) Does anyone know if there are any sororities colonizing at Alabama this year? That is often an excellent way for nonfreshmen to find a home.

Hence the hyperbolic responses to that statement from some who have seen that from PNMs on GreekChat all too often.

Okay, okay, okay, let me rephrase the statement for the benefit of any PNMs reading this:

A colonizing chapter may be another path to a sorority home for both freshmen and upperclassmen. Because colonizing chapters do often look for a mix of both, this might be a good opportunity for an upperclassman. At schools like Bama, though, the competition for colonizing chapters is usually competitive and there are no guarantees that you will be extended an invitation to become a member. And yes, in the SEC, it is advised to get recs for those colonizing chapters. :)

How/where are my numbers off?

How do you interpret the numbers? What happened to the 62 girls pledged but no longer included in the membership total -- within a year? My take is that many graduated (hence they were upper-upperclassmen when joining during the colonization).


That was the point of my extrapolating, so to speak, using the data that is available.

Since you were involved in a recolonization, wouldn't you have some idea of these numbers? Or at least a general idea of class proportions desired in a colonization pledge class?


That is kinda the point of extrapolating.

Extrapolate

a: to project, extend, or expand (known data or experience) into an area not known or experienced so as to arrive at a usually conjectural knowledge of the unknown area


No, do you? I was extrapolating from the numbers available in the reports I linked. Neither of the more recently colonized chapters at Bama are mine.

You are the one who said "I know the last two colonizations at Alabama have been great opportunities for upperclassmen."

I said that 1) if I had the information I would post it and 2) that I am not/was not involved on the recruitment side.

Hence the question to you - do you have the upperclass numbers breakdown. Obviously you don't. Why is that so hard to say?

One figure was how many were originally issued bids, not how many accepted them. A few decline, a few just don't show up, a few get through some of the NM period and decide it's not for them.

Then some transfer, flunk out, drop out, get married. And a few graduate.
You'd really need all the numbers to come up with a accurate picture, and that's private info. But feel free to extrapolate all you want from the published figures.

One way or another, there will be no colonizations at the University of Alabama this year. Maybe next year, but not this year.

Personally, I think that once the three sorority houses are vacated by the groups moving into new houses, a new group might be interested. The cost would be much less than building.

No, it wasn't -- the figures I used to arrive at 62 girls came from the actual totals on the semester-end grade reports.

I hope so -- but I don't think all the houses will be vacant. I understand that some of the chapters may be renovating their existing houses -- I heard that the Chi Os will be moving into one of the vacated houses while renovating their house, for instance.

From what I understand, Gamma Phi Beta is going to take one of the next new lots. ZTA will expand on the Gamma Phi side and AXO will expand on the DDD lot. That leaves the ADPi and AGD houses - both of which are great lots.

lol, I said it. I also said I was extrapolating from the numbers on the reports I linked. You said that my numbers were off, but you are not able to point out how or where my numbers are off. Check the reports I linked earlier.

What exactly are you disagreeing with? That colonization is a great opportunity for upperclassmen? That colonizing chapters take more upperclassmen than existing chapters in FR?

I was originally responding to 33girl's misinformation:

You inidcated that colonization was a great opportunity for upperclassmen at Alabama. I asked if you had stats to back that up. It's that simple. The possible answers are 1) no or 2) yes I do and here they are.

I don't see what all the rest of this has been about. As I said, if I had them I would have posted them.

I don't know how to make this any plainer. End of story.

Yes, I did. And yes, it is. It really is that simple.


I don't think your calling out my posts is really motivated by your data-driven concern over stats. :rolleyes: You didn't even look at the numbers that I did link.


Neither do I. Sorry I couldn't help you understand the math.

You guys are making my head hurt. Please stop.

Then for informational purposes -- PNMs considering participating in a colonization -- some (snark- and vulgarity-free) information:

and

did you do all that on your iPad mini?

did you use Google? The doodle today is pretty cool.

Of possible interest:

Actually, you said that juniors and seniors would pretty easily find a place in a colonizing chapter. That is quite a bit stronger than my indicating that colonization is a great opportunity for upperclassmen.

Got stats for that? :rolleyes:

Got stats?

Sounds like colonization is a great opportunity for upperclassmen, to say the very least, as per you. You knew all 'bout it last June -- what happened?