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DrPhil 01-12-2012 02:18 PM

I shall humor the OP who was rejected by these fraternities.

If there was something on your dorm room door, that is not an official letter of rejection. That was people being mean. If such a mean letter on your dorm room door does exist, forward it to Greek Life/the national body of the fraternity for further investigation. That does not mean you will then be accepted by the fraternity but it means that the fraternity will be investigated and possibly punished.

Good luck. :D Go away.

amIblue? 01-12-2012 02:27 PM

If you're this much of a pain in the butt online, I can only imagine what you're like in real life.

Sorry you were rejected. Why is it that you want to join a group that so obviously doesn't like you?

MysticCat 01-12-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysammy225 (Post 2117318)
It is regarding a friend and what I found extremely odd is how fraternities and sororities are above the law.

Please cite tha law you think they are claiming to be above.

As for the quote from your (still-has-much-to-learn) "law student," funny how he or she misuses the word "written" in place of "wrote" (as in, they/the fraternity written a letter") in exactly the same way that you have throughout your posts.

DrPhil 01-12-2012 02:40 PM

The OP is the rejected friend and the law student friend.

How creepy and stalkerish can you get?

Ghostwriter 01-12-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysammy225 (Post 2117325)
i personally dislike any discrimination in any form, when i see it happen i dislike it.

this was done by the local chapter, i do not even think the national organization is aware of what happened. this letter was just stapled to the dorm's door and was handwritten.

So how do you know that it wasn't a different Fraternity trying to get the one you Rushed in trouble? You don't. So give it a rest. Your "lawyer friend" gave you the answer you wanted so move along. Shoo, shoo!

sammysammy225 01-12-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2117342)
Please cite tha law you think they are claiming to be above.

As for the quote from your (still-has-much-to-learn) "law student," funny how he or she misuses the word "written" in place of "wrote" (as in, they/the fraternity written a letter") in exactly the same way that you have throughout your posts.

What seriously? How stupid is this forum? ada and brown v. board would be some of the laws that are against discrimination? who doesn't know that there are laws against discrimination?

knight_shadow 01-12-2012 03:07 PM

I wasn't aware that the forum itself was capable of thought.

That's what I get for thinking.

sammysammy225 01-12-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2117344)
The OP is the rejected friend and the law student friend.

How creepy and stalkerish can you get?

you act as if you know something personal yet i see no presented evidence.

perhaps the belligerent answers are because the individuals themselves have a personal hatred of minorities, women or anyone with any disabilities and any question as to whether their own discriminatory actions are wrong responds with completely ignorant answers of "any organization and business can discriminate against anyone"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 2117348)
So how do you know that it wasn't a different Fraternity trying to get the one you Rushed in trouble? You don't. So give it a rest. Your "lawyer friend" gave you the answer you wanted so move along. Shoo, shoo!

because they bullied the person? their behavior? because they admitted it?

i am just amused by how many people here are supportive of discrimination of all kinds.

DrPhil 01-12-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysammy225 (Post 2117356)
What seriously? How stupid is this forum? ada and brown v. board would be some of the laws that are against discrimination? who doesn't know that there are laws against discrimination?

How stupid are you? First of all, you were typing to an attorney. Second of all, you are the one who claims exclusion on the basis of discrimination.

If you are going to be all dumb and psycho over your rejection, at least use this as an opportunity to learn more about Greekdom. If you acted then as you are acting now, I can see how your rejection was well-founded.

knight_shadow 01-12-2012 03:11 PM

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DrPhil 01-12-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysammy225 (Post 2117358)
because they bullied the person? their behavior? because they admitted it?

i am just amused by how many people here are supportive of discrimination of all kinds.

Then...take...it...up...with...Greek...Life...or the GLO...itself...and...leave...Greekchat...alone.

Why...are...you...asking...us...when...you...claim ...to...have...a...letter...and...all...of...the.. .answers...your...damn...self?!

knight_shadow 01-12-2012 03:20 PM

I support discrimination of all kinds.

DrPhil 01-12-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2117367)
I support discrimination of all kinds.

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WCsweet<3 01-12-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammysammy225 (Post 2117358)
you act as if you know something personal yet i see no presented evidence.

perhaps the belligerent answers are because the individuals themselves have a personal hatred of minorities, women or anyone with any disabilities and any question as to whether their own discriminatory actions are wrong responds with completely ignorant answers of "any organization and business can discriminate against anyone"



because they bullied the person? their behavior? because they admitted it?

i am just amused by how many people here are supportive of discrimination of all kinds.

One. Many people on GC are graduated and some of us (including some of the members who have responded to this thread) are lawyers. Professional, aka already graduated law school and passed the bar, lawyers. We are a wide variety of people and many of us have actually been discriminated against.

Two. The academic help your friend receives is the same I receive for my ADHD. Soooo many people receive the same academic help for anxiety, stress, ADHD, and dyslexia to name a few. He could have more severe problems as well, but most likely if it is one of those, it plays less in.

Three. When we say local chapter, we don't mean one with a nationals. There are different councils such as IFC fraternities that have many chapters in many states. When we say local, this is not what we mean. What we mean is a fraternity with only a chapter at your school. There are plenty of these as well, however, by some of your posts I doubt this is what you mean.

Four. A note posted on your friend's door is not official. Unless you/your friend witnessed the members of the fraternity post it on the door, it could have been anyone even if the paper had the letterhead of the fraternity/was signed.

Five. If you sincerely were concerned about discrimination, why would you consult strangers on the internet instead of complain to your school? Obviously, it is a student organization so why not complain to the office of student life or whatever it is on your campus. They could investigate and get more facts than strangers on the internet could any day and actually act on them.

Six. Your law student friend does need to learn more. The discrimination he cited was only about business transactions. I also doubt your law student friend was ever greek and probably doesn't really know about how our organizations are formed.



It seems like you came on here looking for: "oh those are bad bad people! The horror!!!"
Which is not what you got. We are members of organizations with private membership criteria that can vary even between chapters of the same organization. We are unable to know what membership selection is in other organizations. If some of the members of the organization posted that letter on your friend's door after bullying him (although it sounds like everyone bullies your friend), then that is horrible and mean. However, there is no way to actually know why they denied him membership because it is secret. Even their nationals do not receive a written record on why they turn down or accept men as members.

I believe you have received adequate responses, but have disliked that they did not tell you what you want to hear. Our opinions will not change no matter how long you badger us. You obviously aren't listening to us. Please leave us be since you are not really looking for information and apparently know everything about our organizations which have been around for hundreds of years and the members on here have been a part of for decades.



One last thing: The word you are looking for is WROTE! For goodness sakes, use your education and write with correct grammar.

33girl 01-12-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 2117374)
Our opinions will not change no matter how long you badger us.

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