I know I speak for a few people when I say: thank you.
;)
(And I know I said I wouldn't post again, but I couldn't help myself. I know you all will forgive me!)

I forgive you Maria. I hope you can forgive me :) I can understand how you feel about this issue. I hope you havent fell out of your chair reading my posts. ha ha.

sex


I just posted about sex

Sex is cool
Sex is sin
Sin is forgiving
So slide it in

- My girlfriend Rhonda

Did I say that?
Rhonda

BuCutie got a lot of complaints about shultzz' nasty thread, so she locked it. Some of the complainers were people who have been proclaiming their right to say anything they want on line.

See what I mean? Everyone has his or her own point at which they're offended and some people who weren't offended by the non-virgin ladies thread have now reached that point. Who are you to now be saying we should set some limits?

Contrary to popular opinion, we don't have totally free speech in this country. If we did, child porno would be in our faces every day and libel and slander would be rampant. We do need some limits.

You tell 'em, Carnation!

Actually, I wouldn't have supressed a thread about anal sex, all it did was ask a simple question. *shrug* I thought BUCutie, made an interesting compromise in appeasing the people complaining by closing the one thread but still allowing the question to remain in the non-virgin thread.

This thread is interesting in its defensiveness. The way I have been reading it some people are just saying they are a mite uncomfy with aspects of sexuality (as Carnation put it) beyond their private or public comfort level being displayed in this forumn.

The others have responded that their comfort levels are higher. This is cutting out some of the back and forth rhetoric.

I guess anal presents a more uncomfy level for some? Well how about being dressed in latex and then bound . .. or some of those vicsiously wierd piercing ceremonies . . .

If, as Carnation said, some people that were vehemently defending their right to express are asking for another thread about sexual activity to be closed, that is amusing :D

Good discussion.

"Cut the hypocritical b.s."???? :eek: Just a minute. I really don't appreciate being called a hypocrite by someone who doesn't know what I look like, much less what type of person I am! :mad:

Whether or not I've "done" the things that have been discussed in these recent threads is not even close to the point I was making in my earlier post, and I don't think it was the point of most of the other GCers who share my opinion! So let's get a few things straight before we start calling each other names:

For the record, I've got just as many stories to tell as the next GCer and, yes, I have talked about sex and still DO talk about sex in DETAIL, in PRIVATE, to CLOSE FRIENDS. However, I don't walk through a crowded mall, chatting loudly with my girlfriends about what "positions" my boyfriend and I selected the night before, and I sure as hell don't broadcast my sex life to the world via GreekChat either. If that makes me a "hypocrite" in some peoples' minds, then so be it! I'll wear the label with pride.

Personally, I do not feel like certain topics should be discussed in a Greek Chat forum and that is why I have CHOSEN to veer away from them. Some people have made the argument that the Internet is the only outlet some shy people have to ask questions and discuss "taboo" subjects while under the veil of anonymity. My reply to this argument is that there are plenty of websites on the worldwide web that are specifically designated for sex talks, and I am of the opinion that those are the types of forums where sex should be brought up if someone feels like doing so. However, in my obviously minority opinion, we might as well rename Chit Chat "Sex Chat", judging from the majority of posts made lately. :rolleyes:

All I'm really trying to get across is that people who aren't Greek DO check out this site, and there are many who will get the wrong idea about Greek Life if they run across too many of these threads. Sorry to break the news to you folks, but people DO judge organizations by the actions of a few members. It happens every day and if you don't believe it, then you seriously need a reality check. I'm not saying that it's a smart thing to do, or even a FAIR thing to do, but it does in fact happen. It's just human nature.

How many times have you had ONE bad experience with a waiter and decided not to return to the restaurant because of it?

How many times have you had ONE rude salesperson treat you shabbily, making you swear that you'll "never set foot in that store again"?

Or, if you prefer examples on a Greek level:

How many times has ONE girl in a sorority done something outrageous in front of you at a mixer and made you think, "Damn, XYZ is scraping the bottom of the barrel for girls lately. What a ho!"?

How many times have you seen ONE fraternity guy acting like a jerk at a bar and overheard a non-Greek at the next barstool say, "All those ABC's are a bunch of a$$holes."?

How many times have you fielded a hazing question from a rushee that started out something like "My friend's sister's cousin twice-removed told me that she was hazed by one of your sisters at LMN University..."?

Situations like these happen EVERY DAY, y'all, and they ALL start because ONE person did or said something without first thinking about the consequences. If you don't believe me, then you need to crawl out from whatever rock you've been living under and take a look at the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and I really wish foresight was the same.

Do you honestly think that a rushee won't find GC, read a few of the more recent threads in Chit Chat, and think, "Man, Animal House is right on target!"? I guarantee you that some people WILL be offended, and WILL get the wrong impression.

Now, you can argue that statement by saying, "Well, what do we care about how a few people wrongly perceive us? It doesn't make a difference in the long run." I'm here to tell you that it does! Why? Because those few people are going to make comments to a few more people, who are going to make comments to a few more people, and THAT'S how the Greek system gets a bad rep.

Studies show that a person who is happy with something is going to tell between 2 and 3 people about their experience. A person who is UNhappy with something will tell 10 or more people. Do the math.

Sorry to be so blunt, folks, but others have been just as blunt when denouncing my viewpoint, and I'm feeling a little punchy today. I don't like being called a prude, and I really hate being called immature simply because something that is important to me isn't important to the next guy.

For the record, I haven't requested that ANY of these threads be closed. If y'all want to continue talking about sex, then go right ahead. But do so with the full understanding that, like it or not and fair or not, your comments WILL make an impression on others --- and it may not always be a favorable one. It's up to you and you ONLY to decide what type of image you want to portray for your GLO. You are wholly responsible for your words and actions. Just remember that, in the end, it will be your entire GLO that will receive the praise or the condemnation based on what YOU did or said.

That's the ONLY point I have EVER tried to make on the subject of GC posts.

***dzrose carefully descending the ladder from her soapbox, since it happens to be a VERY tall one today***

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Alright, can we pretty much let go af all the bickering and state that its cool for everyone to have varying opinions on this topic? To anyone who took anything I said personally, it wasn't really intended towards any ONE person, it was a general statement, my opinion, which I'm going to give regardless of who has a problem with it. The sex thing, personal and private to some. That's fine. Open and conversive with others, that's cool too. But if I'm going to be lectured about it, in a rather nasty tone mad I add, i'm going to fire back and be an a$$hole, which is not how I want to come across. So, with that said, ya'll have a pleasant day.:)

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Originally posted by PKTSU01
Alright, i just gotta say this, and its my personal opinion, but I gotta voice it. As far as all of this talk goes about sex talk being inappropriate and shocking and whatnot...with the exception of those on this site who may not have experienced it yet "cut the hypocritical b.s." I've always been amazed by people who are shocked when they hear others talking about things that they themselves have done, but are too prudish or immature to talk about
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someone answer me this...?
 

ok, I happen to think of sex as a private issue and have nothing against people who want to talk about ti openly, I just choose not too. Its like leaving something to the imagination.
anywho, my question is...how come alot of people who are so open about sex and whatever, get pissed when other people start discussing their business and act like the had their privacy volated? im not saying anyone on the board does this, but i know alot of people who do. Examples: a friend of mine has told are other close friends that her and her bf, have done it in the deans office, in a elevator, grandmothers jacuzzi (whihc I just think is not cute, cuz its grandma's ya know), and etc. I had heard about it from them, and then when i asked her about it she got mad or embarassed about it and acted like she had to get off the phone. I dont get it. Or Im sure we have all know guys or girls who run off at the mouth about their little escapades and what they do to whomever, but get pissed when they start hearing stuff about them going around about them and have people talking about them. If your going to get mad...WHY SAY IT? Can someone answer that?

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In all honesty I hope the ZZZZ wasnt in response to an honest question being asked.