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KSigkid 10-17-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2100354)
This is going to make me sound terrible but I didn't put ANYTHING sorority on my resume that wasn't something I felt would impress an employer/grad program. Ex: I was Awards chair once. I made the awards we handed out at formal. I didn't really think that needed to be on my resume. Birthday Sunshine chair? Nope. Public Relations chair? Yes.


That doesn't sound terrible. I'm a lawyer, and the only Greek-related items on my resume are Order of Omega and my Kappa Sigma scholarship (even though I was President of my chapter). Living in the Northeast, it's just not something I've found beneficial in job interviews.

33girl 10-18-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DGTess (Post 2100654)
Agree with keeping GLO on the resume (for jobs - I have no experience with the grad-school resume), but think long and hard about whether to name it or whether simply to state "University" chapter of a national sorority.

You may be asked about it at the interview, but you want to avoid the lowly HR clerk who thinks "XYZ - a bunch of divas" or "I'm not forwarding an XYZ; they dropped me first round" and tosses the resume.

Does it happen often? No, but it does happen, and you don't want to give any reason for yours to be in the "no" stack.

The other side of that coin is that if you don't name it, people might think that you're ashamed of your chapter, or that you're bullshitting about the whole thing.

I'm sure there are also lowly HR clerks with grudges against student-athletes, or people from ABC University, or people from Erie, or people who were on student senate. Who would also throw those resumes out.

You can't go through life being frightened of being derailed by someone else's psychosis.

AlphaFrog 10-18-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2100935)
You can't go through life being frightened of being derailed by someone else's psychosis.

Hello, signature.

knight_shadow 10-18-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2100939)
Hello, signature.

33girl is on a roll. #SiggyQueen

NutBrnHair 10-18-2011 07:31 PM

My opinion on the original topic... No, I would not list T-shirt Chair on a resume.

Did I include my leadership positions in Chi Omega on my resume? Most definitely. I am extremely proud of the organization and what I learned as a leader. The jobs I've held have been in the South and the Midwest, but the listing of Chi Omega always produced a positive connection for the person with whom I was interviewing. I remember the National CEO of the Arthritis Foundation proudly telling me his daughter was a Chi Omega!

It does surprise me that members of Greek Chat -- who care so much about the Greek experience that they participate frequently in this online community -- would not include their Greek affiliation on their resume.

KSigkid 10-18-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2100963)
My opinion on the original topic... No, I would not list T-shirt Chair on a resume.

Did I include my leadership positions in Chi Omega on my resume? Most definitely. I am extremely proud of the organization and what I learned as a leader. The jobs I've held have been in the South and the Midwest, but the listing of Chi Omega always produced a positive connection for the person with whom I was interviewing. I remember the National CEO of the Arthritis Foundation proudly telling me his daughter was a Chi Omega!

It does surprise me that members of Greek Chat -- who care so much about the Greek experience that they participate frequently in this online community -- would not include their Greek affiliation on their resume.

Personally, it's not a matter of pride or anything like that. I'm proud of my affiliation, and I think my Kappa Sig experience has been great (not to mention, my best friends today I met through Kappa Sig).

That said, I just have very little Kappa Sig stuff on my resume. It's not a fear thing, and it hasn't hurt me in interviews.

DrPhil 10-18-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair
I remember the National CEO of the Arthritis Foundation proudly telling me his daughter was a Chi Omega!

That's wonderful. He could have just as easily disliked fraternities and sororities and not wanted to be bothered with someone who boasts about "that stuff."

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair
It does surprise me that members of Greek Chat -- who care so much about the Greek experience that they participate frequently in this online community -- would not include their Greek affiliation on their resume.

I see nothing surprising about it. One of life's lessons is understanding how to market yourself. I tend to advise collegiate and alumnae Sorors to keep Delta off of their resume` unless they held/hold positions or participated/participate in programs that pertain to skills/careers/occupations/jobs; or were given an honor or award from/through Delta. I have more than one resume` and never had Delta on either of them because I know that Delta and Greekdom tend not to resonate with my target audience.

DrPhil 10-18-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2100935)
You can't go through life being frightened of being derailed by someone else's psychosis.

I think this post is being overly dramatic. LOL.

The point of a resume` is to market yourself. You are not marketing yourself to yourself or to people who already think you're awesome and worth hiring. Collegiates and alumnae need to think about their target audience before putting ANYTHING on their resume`. That is why people edit and update their resume`. You figure out what works for what you're trying to accomplish and go from there. If including your GLO works, then put your GLO. If it does not work, you leave it off. If including that you planned the Occupy Someone's Street in your city works for your goal, then you put that on the resume`. If it does not work for your resume`, you leave it off. Such is life.

You = in general

KSUViolet06 10-18-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2100987)
I think this post is being overly dramatic. LOL.

The point of a resume` is to market yourself. You are not marketing yourself to yourself or to people who already think you're awesome and worth hiring. Collegiates and alumnae need to think about their target audience before putting ANYTHING on their resume`. That is why people edit and update their resume`. You figure out what works for what you're trying to accomplish and go from there. If including your GLO works, then put your GLO. If it does not work, you leave it off. If including that you planned the Occupy Someone's Street in your city works for your goal, then you put that on the resume`. If it does not work for your resume`, you leave it off. Such is life.

You = in general

And this is what people are saying.

I fail to see (as NutBrn is saying) where people are saying that they aren't proud of their GLOs.

We're just saying that those experiences aren't always applicable to what we're applying for and when you have limited space in which to market yourself, you have to choose wisely.

Example: when I'm applying for educator jobs and I have limited resume space, I'm probably going to leave off being on my GLO's national magazine staff and include school volunteer experiences I've had and a fellowship with a local district. My writing experience with Sigma just doesn't really apply.

excelblue 10-19-2011 04:28 AM

I only include my fraternity on my resume when it's for a position in which leadership experience will be clearly beneficial.

Otherwise, in the field where I'm in, Greek Life is generally heavily underrepresented, and chances are, bringing up anything Greek will only bring up negative stereotypes.

NutBrnHair 10-19-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 2100969)
Personally, it's not a matter of pride or anything like that. I'm proud of my affiliation, and I think my Kappa Sig experience has been great (not to mention, my best friends today I met through Kappa Sig).

That said, I just have very little Kappa Sig stuff on my resume. It's not a fear thing, and it hasn't hurt me in interviews.

You'll never know how many connections you've missed out on.

I think you said you live in the Northeast, so I know it's a different story on how popular Greek life is there and how it's viewed. Luckily, I've never lived in that region of the country and have been able to list with pride my involvement in Chi Omega. ;)

DeltaBetaBaby 10-19-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2101130)
You'll never know how many connections you've missed out on.

I think you said you live in the Northeast, so I know it's a different story on how popular Greek life is there and how it's viewed. Luckily, I've never lived in that region of the country and have been able to list with pride my involvement in Chi Omega. ;)

If I put Phi Mu on my resume, it would mean leaving something else off. Believe me, I have much more important use for that space.

NutBrnHair 10-19-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2101156)
If I put Phi Mu on my resume, it would mean leaving something else off. Believe me, I have much more important use for that space.

Wow. How lucky Phi Mu is to have you as a member.

knight_shadow 10-19-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2101159)
Wow. How lucky Phi Mu is to have you as a member.

Are you serious?

MysticCat 10-19-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2101159)
Wow. How lucky Phi Mu is to have you as a member.

Because she's showing good sense? Yes, they are lucky to have someone with sense as a member. I'd take that any day over some other traits I see exhibited here, including the ability to ride incredibly high horses.

It's not a matter of being proud of one's organization or not. It's a matter of knowing one's goal with a resume and knowing which of the many things that could be put on it should be put on it to accomplish that goal. It's also a matter of knowing one's audience and knowing, in the context of that audience, which things might fairly or unfairly thwart one in reaching that goal.

It works for you to put everything you've ever done for Chi O on your resume -- that's fine for you. But there's more than a little arrogance in your not-so-subtle suggestions that anyone who does things differently is ashamed of their GLOs or less loyal to their GLO than you.


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