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dekeguy 08-12-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2078946)
Just because one is "Polished" or "articulate" doesn't necessarily mean one must revert to the writing style of one CS Lewis.

Please note that my 'Polished' comment referred to 'thirty-something' GCers in general. I do aspire to be 'articulate' as it is afterall rather stock in trade for a lawyer.
Since the late CS Lewis, DPhil, DLitt, etc. predeceased me by quite a few years I doubt if it would be possible to 'revert' to his writing style, unless one put stock in reincarnation. If, however, my writing style suggests his abilities with the English, inter alia, language then I am highly complimented and grateful for your comment to that effect.


Side thought, Quo usque tandem...

SydneyK 08-12-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2078924)
maybe ellebud will come on and give this girl some california advice!

THIS. :D Paging ellebud!
(Not to diminish the pretty dresses already linked, of course. But when I read the OP, I immediately thought of ellebud.)

DubaiSis 08-12-2011 04:44 PM

The dresses above are great, but again, might I suggest the model eat a cracker or something? Maybe splurge and eat a carrot? The one in purple looks like a holocaust victim.

dekeguy 08-12-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2078952)
You're not getting the point that it's inappropriate for members of non-NPC groups to comment on anything relating to NPC recruitment, up to and including wardrobe.

We NPC members may not agree on outfits, but we're all well within our knowledge and right to give "regional" opinions about what would or would not be appropriate for our regions, having gone through dress checks as collegians ourselves.


So, it is appropriate for your half of the human race to comment on 'guy centric' topics but inappropriate for me to offer what is meant as a bit of helpful thought to a 'girl centric' topic? What is that word that comes to mind just now? Oh yes, SEXIST. Was that the point I was supposed to get.


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Originally Posted by barbino (Post 2078953)
I've seen people give unsolicited opinions on GC for far worse subjects than a guy giving a PNM his opinion on recruitment clothing. OK, so maybe recruitment is one of the times when we ladies don't dress to impress the male species. I still feel that dekeguy had every right to give his opinon.
I have loved all of the dresses posted in this thread -- especially those from Dubai Sis and ree-xi. I think that the OP has gotten some valuable information on what to consider while choosing recruitment clothes. :)


barbino,

Thank you very much for your fair minded and generous comment. I do appreciate your words. I was somewhat surprised by the negative reactions by some toward what was intended to be helpful. Observing my sister and her friends dress styles I got the distinct impression that the proposed outfit might have had a negative effect on the prospective's chances based on how little time was available for anyone to really get to know her. I figured it was time for her to stick by the old saying 'put your best foot forward'.
Again, thank you.

agzg 08-12-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2078956)

This one is lovely.

VandalSquirrel 08-12-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by barbino (Post 2078957)
The dress options given here just keep getting better ...:)

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2078958)
OMGPOCKETSLOVE!!!

I'll admit my choices are tainted by my own style preferences and body shape, but the hardest thing at this point of the year is finding something that doesn't scream summer in color or fabric. I also tried to keep it under $200 as a lot of what I like is quite a bit more price wise.

Oh my, I want this dress, even though it isn't green and gold sequins. http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/aidan-ma...esultback=3192

Well hello, this dress solves my torso/waist drama and fulfills my sequin needs without taking it too far http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/calvin-k...esultback=5006

Munchkin03 08-12-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dekeguy (Post 2078944)
AlphaFrog,

I note that many GC regulars are in their 30s and come off a bit more polished than teenaged undergraduates or overaged wannabe kids, but I don't really think that qualifies as pretentious. On the contrary, I submit that acting one's age and drawing on one's experience seems to me to be a valid approach.

There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!

agzg 08-12-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dekeguy (Post 2078969)
So, it is appropriate for your half of the human race to comment on 'guy centric' topics but inappropriate for me to offer what is meant as a bit of helpful thought to a 'girl centric' topic? What is that word that comes to mind just now? Oh yes, SEXIST. Was that the point I was supposed to get.

If fraternity members want to tell sorority members to stay in their lane in regard to fraternity rush, that's their right. I am telling you now, stay in your lane. Women dressing for sorority rush are not dressing for dudes. Furthermore, I don't see how comments like "pond life" EVEN IF YOUR SISTER SAID IT are helpful.

Also, blow me on the sexism front.

VandalSquirrel 08-12-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2078965)
The dresses above are great, but again, might I suggest the model eat a cracker or something? Maybe splurge and eat a carrot? The one in purple looks like a holocaust victim.

Though I fully believe there are body image issues in the fashion industry, I don't think we should body shame women who may naturally have bodies that are very slim, and extending from that, some women may have health issues that prevent weight gain. As women, let alone sorority women, the prevalence and risk of eating disorders is one we're no stranger to, and body acceptance and health needs to cover the whole spectrum of women, and men.

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2078970)
This one is lovely.

I like dresses that allow me to add something with accessories if I want to, but also let me be savvy yet alluring.

agzg 08-12-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 2078981)
Though I fully believe there are body image issues in the fashion industry, I don't think we should body shame women who may naturally have bodies that are very slim, and extending from that, some women may have health issues that prevent weight gain. As women, let alone sorority women, the prevalence and risk of eating disorders is one we're no stranger to, and body acceptance and health needs to cover the whole spectrum of women, and men.



I like dresses that allow me to add something with accessories if I want to, but also let me be savvy yet alluring.

I agree on both counts. :)

dekeguy 08-12-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2078972)
There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!


This begins to be a bit absurd. The phrase was "pond life" (mildly negative but very different meaning) and it was my sister's comment. According to the criticisms heard today it seems to me that as she is a woman and a Greek alumna she is fully qualified to make such a comment. It might be helpful if quoted phrases are accurately quoted and attributed to their originator. If the comment seems pretentious I suggest you read a few dozen comments on a few dozen threads by a number of ladies where the phrase 'pond life' would be seen mild and not in the least pretentious. Its all in the context but I would suggest that one should read the original comment before responding to something that was not said in the manner implied.

dekeguy 08-12-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2078972)
There's a difference between sounding mature and articulate, or "polished," as you said, and sounding pretentious. Also, just speaking for myself, my writing style on GC is way less formal than it is in my professional life or personal life. I'd imagine that I'm not the exception in this case.

Calling an 18-year old's outfit selection for rush "pond scum" is pretentious and lame. Note that the women on this board have offered suggestions but not judgements. There's a difference!


Does anyone read what was actually said? The quote was "pond life" not "pond scum". These have very different meanings, and by the way, the comment was my sister's, a Greek alumna, who would seem to me to be well qualified to offer her opinion.

greekdancer 08-12-2011 05:29 PM

just throwing it out there
 
I appreciate your opinion and help zekeguy. Based on your strong and dramatic response, I am definitely not wearing boots. Other than that, I would love if the arguments on this thread ended.

dekeguy 08-12-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2078975)
If fraternity members want to tell sorority members to stay in their lane in regard to fraternity rush, that's their right. I am telling you now, stay in your lane. Women dressing for sorority rush are not dressing for dudes. Furthermore, I don't see how comments like "pond life" EVEN IF YOUR SISTER SAID IT are helpful.

Also, blow me on the sexism front.


Remind me please where anything was said about her 'dressing for dudes'. I seem to recall this was all about a suggestion that the outfit might not work to her best advantage during rush where her judges would be female. My sister's comment is her opinion and I don't see what your opinion of whether it is helpful or not has anything to do with anything other than your opinion.

As to telling sorority members to stay in their lane, why? Suggestions, constructive criticism, and helpful comments are always welcome. Even nasty cracks can be quite amusing.
I might have the right to ASK someone to stay in her lane but I would have NO right to TELL her to do so. By the same token anyone has the right to ASK anyone to do or not do something. BUT, in the context of GC, no one has the right to tell someone to do or not do something.

So, I'm sorry but you are not in a position to TELL me anything. Please back off and get over yourself.

As to your ever so ladylike order to "blow me", sorry, that is not acceptable on two accounts. First, it is biologically impossible. Second, I am a straight male so even if it were possible you would be out of luck.

AZTheta 08-12-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by greekdancer (Post 2078988)
I appreciate your opinion and help zekeguy. Based on your strong and dramatic response, I am definitely not wearing boots. Other than that, I would love if the arguments on this thread ended.

Best.Newbie.Comment. greekdancer, I hope you have a fabulous recruitment!!!

Question: What's with boots and dresses? I'm thinking of back in the day when the style was those lace up granny boots and print dresses that made the wearer look like Little House on the Prairie. I'll search for a photo and post if I find one.

Can someone show me a successful boots and dress combo? I bet the boots you like would work with something!

ps dekeguy, take a deep breath. This is not the hill you want to die on.


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