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Drolefille 02-28-2011 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2034635)
Yes, the article states "After receiving scholarship requests from people who are of mixed race, Bohannon has qualified his requirements so that students are eligible if they're a quarter non-Hispanic white."

LOL @ both NAACP scholarships....

More importantly, Bohannon started this scholarship because non-Hispanic whites have become the minority in TX at 42% of the total population. The population minority means very little because whites are still, and probably always will be, the power majority in Texas and other states. So, a white scholarship isn't the worst idea in the world but it does make me laugh, considering the "we're a minority" angle. That doesn't even get into the fact that the white Hispanics will assimilate into "America whiteness" in about 10-20 years.
42% makes them a plurality, not a minority. (Unless one other group is 43%, which I doubt.) Dude needs to give himself a scholarship so he can take a stats class. Or a sociology class. Or anything.

knight_shadow 02-28-2011 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2034639)
42% makes them a plurality, not a minority. (Unless one other group is 43%, which I doubt.) Dude needs to give himself a scholarship so he can take a stats class. Or a sociology class. Or anything.
You're correct.

DrPhil 02-28-2011 10:23 PM
Then I don't really blame Brohannon for that. LOL. If he was incorrect that non-Hispanic whites are the minority at 42%, the article should have called him out. They should have the stats dammit.

ETA: Ummm...LOL...what was Brohannon talking about. Even this blog alludes to the fact that no group surpassed non-Hispanic whites. http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-p...ord-plurality/

Drolefille 02-28-2011 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2034647)
Then I don't really blame Brohannon for that. LOL. If he was incorrect that non-Hispanic whites are the minority at 42%, the article should have called him out. They should have the stats dammit.

ETA: Ummm...LOL...what was Brohannon talking about. Even this blog alludes to the fact that no group surpassed non-Hispanic whites. http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-p...ord-plurality/
Wikipedia's demographics of Texas has a really weird breakdown of the stats including contrasting non-Hispanic whites(32%) with Hispanics of any race (37%) and at the same time identifying over 70% of the population as "white."

While 'Hispanic' confounds the data because it's an ethnicity, it doesn't make sense to consider race in some and not other categories and ethnicity in some and not others. In short, I'm still going with "plurality" and this guy being fail.

DrPhil 02-28-2011 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2034654)
Wikipedia's demographics of Texas has a really weird breakdown of the stats including contrasting non-Hispanic whites(32%) with Hispanics of any race (37%) and at the same time identifying over 70% of the population as "white."

While 'Hispanic' confounds the data because it's an ethnicity, it doesn't make sense to consider race in some and not other categories and ethnicity in some and not others. In short, I'm still going with "plurality" and this guy being fail.
Long story short, non-Hispanic whites aren't the minority. No group surpassed non-Hispanic whites.

The most I found was projection data: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/chs/popdat/ST2010.shtm

Not to get bogged down with this detail, I'm really humored that I was questioning my intelligence when I read his claim and read your response. It's funny that he attempted the minority angle and it was inaccurate. People also confuse "Hispanic population is growing" with "non-Hispanic white population is smaller than every other population." Such confusion works very well for the Texas political and racial climate.

Elephant Walk 03-01-2011 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2034635)
That doesn't even get into the fact that the white Hispanics will assimilate into "America whiteness" in about 10-20 years.
The first statement you have ever typed that hasn't made me want to grind my teeth and spew profanity.

knight_shadow 03-01-2011 11:22 AM
This was on Yahoo this morning


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I’m not claiming that it’s a disadvantage to be a white male; I’m just recognizing that there is a subset of white and male that cannot afford the money for school,” says Bohannan, who describes himself as a twice-deployed Iraq War veteran who was honorably discharged from the Army last year after shattering his elbow during a football game in a combat zone. “We’re trying to help those people better their own lives. We’re not making any political claims. We’re just trying to help people.”

On CNN, Bohannan insisted: “We do not promote any kind of racial bigotry or white supremacy, and we don’t take money from people who do. If you’re part of a white supremacist group… keep your money. We don’t want your money.”
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“I find it hard to believe that these people really think that white males are one oppressed minority, and the idea that they are going to be helped by $500 seems silly on its face,” Potok says. “I’m not accusing these guys of being racist. Maybe they’re merely foolish.”

William Lake responds: “Helping anyone pay for their education is not silly. I would say it’s a noble effort worth pursuing… We’re starting from the ground up, we’re not men of means with a whole lot of money laying around. If we had enough money, I’d like to set up a foundation that handed out half a million a year.”
link

DeltaBetaBaby 03-01-2011 11:38 AM
He is right, there are a lot of people who can't afford school. But he should be lobbying for political change if he really believes it is a problem.

Drolefille 03-01-2011 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2034789)
He is right, there are a lot of people who can't afford school. But he should be lobbying for political change if he really believes it is a problem.
Actually he's doing something to address the problem that he sees. Whether or not he lobbies for political change it seems silly to criticize him on those grounds.

Alumiyum 03-01-2011 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2034790)
Actually he's doing something to address the problem that he sees. Whether or not he lobbies for political change it seems silly to criticize him on those grounds.
This. Let's be honest, lobbying for change isn't for everyone. To make change actually happen it takes money, time, commitment, and connections. Maybe he thinks he is better suited to help this way instead.

MysticCat 03-01-2011 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2034790)
Actually he's doing something to address the problem that he sees. Whether or not he lobbies for political change it seems silly to criticize him on those grounds.
He is being the change he wants to see, perhaps?

BluPhire 03-01-2011 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2034791)
This. Let's be honest, lobbying for change isn't for everyone. To make change actually happen it takes money, time, commitment, and connections. Maybe he thinks he is better suited to help this way instead.
Agreed. I used to be a front line lobby for change type. You realize sometimes its just easier to throw money at the situation. The problem a lot of people have is thinking there is only one way to solve a problem.

Which is why you have a successful program in one area work, but that same program fall flat in other places. (Charter Schools, Co-Op healthcare.)

Drolefille 03-01-2011 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2034793)
He is being the change he wants to see, perhaps?
I suppose. I think this is a silly idea, but ultimately there needs to be people who advocate for aid for the homeless and people who give the homeless food/money/shelter. Because there's a need now as well as trying to fix the need for the future. Same principle works here.

MysticCat 03-01-2011 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2034795)
I suppose. I think this is a silly idea . . . .
I do too, though people have a right to persue their silly ideas. I guess my intended facetiousness didn't come through.

DrPhil 03-01-2011 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 2034750)
The first statement you have ever typed that hasn't made me want to grind my teeth and spew profanity.
Yet and still, you need to shut the fuck up.


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