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IrishLake 12-30-2010 03:47 PM

Exactly what I was just thinking, ree. "I" "I" "I" "I" - there's a lot of "I's" for someone who wants to form something for a group of women.

agzg 12-30-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2015588)
A big part of a sorority is that their members *IDENTIFY* themselves as part of the sorority. I just don't think this type of victim is the kind that wants to shout it from the rooftops. As it is, domestic/sexual crimes are severely under-reported due to the blame and stigma victims usually place on themselves. Being able to discuss what happened may be part of the healing process, but it seems like a group like this would push that on the victim before they're ready, under the pretense of helping them.

I 100% agree. It was years before I was able to not-even-openly discuss my experience and I doubt I'll ever be at the point where I'd be willing to be a walking billboard for a group built of survivors like I would for my GLO. In fact, as a survivor I'm mega uncomfortable wearing t-shirts associated with any group or event with a similar mission, and I don't do it.

Not that sorority membership is all about t-shirts, but it seems like many people who found groups (in this day and age) consider things like t-shirts way before considering things like ritual.

DeltaBetaBaby 12-30-2010 04:41 PM

If you want to borrow some "sorority" elements, that could be fine...like, we trust each other enough to have a secret motto or something like that. I see how that could be useful, if applied correctly.

psusue 12-30-2010 10:45 PM

I also feel that writing a ritual about survivorship and the power of the human spirit could be quite moving. However I do think that this is sort of a backwards approach to it, unless you already have friends who are survivors (which you may well have).

I guess I just don't understand how selective membership and pledging will help these women though. Also would there be opportunities for friends/relatives/partners to participate in elements of the group? Because I feel that would be useful in supporting them.

Splash 12-31-2010 12:01 AM

Many of the times the people who are quick to point out founderitis belong to orgs whose founders suffered from the same disease.

Gusteau 12-31-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Splash (Post 2015731)
Many of the times the people who are quick to point out founderitis belong to orgs whose founders suffered from the same disease.

No.

Most of our organizations were founded in a very different time, and for very different purposes. Communication was limited, as were social opportunities for college students. Especially in the case of women's fraternities they created a support system at a time when women were a minority in higher education. Our founders did not have founderitis; they had less options, and had a void to fill on college campuses and in their communities. Your answer shows very little knowledge of the origins of the fraternal movement.

The case of the OP is not the same, and though her cause is worthy, it devalues the fraternal experience by making everything and anything worthy of a fraternity or sorority.

ree-Xi 12-31-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NETrySIG89 (Post 2015722)
Don't think its founderitis because this woman is clearly older. Founderitis is usually used for a college freshman who is like "oh man if we make our own Frat we'll be KINGS!!!!!" This woman just wants to do something cool, but might be misguided

I didn't realize that a formal definition or age limit existed. Where would I find such information?

Second, what is the litmus test for "something cool"? I don' think that the OP perceives an organization for victims of Domestic Violence as "something cool".

As for being misguided, dear, you should look in the mirror. The rationale that you've spewed is coming from somewhere in that head.

knight_shadow 12-31-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Splash (Post 2015731)
Many of the times the people who are quick to point out founderitis belong to orgs whose founders suffered from the same disease.

People like who?

I believe ree-Xi is a member of Alpha Xi Delta. Please enlighten us on how this group's founders suffered from founderitis in 1893.

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 2015737)
No.

Most of our organizations were founded in a very different time, and for very different purposes. Communication was limited, as were social opportunities for college students. Especially in the case of women's fraternities they created a support system at a time when women were a minority in higher education. Our founders did not have founderitis; they had less options, and had a void to fill on college campuses and in their communities. Your answer shows very little knowledge of the origins of the fraternal movement.

The case of the OP is not the same, and though her cause is worthy, it devalues the fraternal experience by making everything and anything worthy of a fraternity or sorority.

Bingo. People like Splash need to shut the hell up.

Drolefille 12-31-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Splash (Post 2015731)
Many of the times the people who are quick to point out founderitis belong to orgs whose founders suffered from the same disease.

Somehow I don't think so.

IrishLake 12-31-2010 12:56 AM

It's the "I" mentality that is a dead giveaway of Founderitis.

"I" picked "our" letters.
"I" made "our" crest.
"I" created "our" ritual.

"I" when it should be "We" = Founderitis.

preciousjeni 12-31-2010 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lyngon30 (Post 2015637)
Because I...have did alot of research...

PhD, huh?

Drolefille 12-31-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 2015758)
PhD, huh?

WHOA HOW TOTALLY OUT OF LINE YOU ARE WITH THAT OBSERVATION.

preciousjeni 12-31-2010 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2015759)
WHOA HOW TOTALLY OUT OF LINE YOU ARE WITH THAT OBSERVATION.

Wait for it...

Drolefille 12-31-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 2015760)
Wait for it...

I'm not subtle tonight, sorry -.-

preciousjeni 12-31-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2015762)
I'm not subtle tonight, sorry -.-

Still waiting for someone to come in and jump on your comment. lol


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