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DrPhil 11-21-2010 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005358)
No, I inferred "you" as her post was in direct response to mine, and focused on the fact that I keep saying I think it's important to teach these customs so that the student can use them if need be. I have no confusion whatsoever, but what I do have is respect for those that TRY to be polite, even if are using the wrong customs in the wrong situation. I have respect for the thought behind the actions.
You sound really confused. What are you typing about?

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005358)
Yes, my posts were directly in response to yours that I quoted, and as those particular posts kept referencing how ridiculous you think some of these things are, I responded accordingly.

No, your post was not directly in response to mine. You attached a whole lot that I did not say. For one, I did not say that it was ridiculous. Re-read my first post again. I often type generally because such topics don't rely on my personal opinion. So don't assume that I am expressing my personal opinion when I type "ridiculous by some" and "some may scoff."

Alumiyum 11-21-2010 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2005360)
You sound really confused. What are you typing about?




No, your post was not directly in response to mine. You attached a whole lot that I did not say. For one, I did not say that it was ridiculous. Re-read my first post again. I often type generally because such topics don't rely on my personal opinion. So don't assume that I am expressing my personal opinion when I type "ridiculous by some" and "some may scoff."
There truly is no reason for me to think this is not your opinion when you use "I think".

Drolefille 11-21-2010 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005361)
There truly is no reason for me to think this is not your opinion when you use "I think".
DrPhil has not once used those two words in this thread. You have. Gusteau has. The OP has. Irishlake has. WTF are you talking about?

Please tell me where in the following post "I think" occurs.
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Etiquette is generally a good thing and it helps you to mingle in different environments. However, I recommend caution for these kinds of programs for two reasons:

1. People have differing opinions on some parts of etiquette. Make sure you are teaching business etiquette and aren't just teaching "stereotypically southern etiquette."
2. Make sure you know the difference between table etiquette and "teaching gender." I believe in teaching people how to eat at the table and other basic things but I don't agree with teaching people things like "women have to do this and men have to do that." Some etiquette classes delve into the gender part of it all. Blah.

In other words, don't be surprised if some people are resistant to certain aspects of table etiquette because, beyond the formality of it all, some of it seems ridiculous to some people.
Now, go back and analyze where it is her personal opinion "I believe" and where it is a more generalized statement "some people."

There'll be a quiz.

DrPhil 11-21-2010 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005361)
There truly is no reason for me to think this is not your opinion when you use "I think".
Show me where I said that I think it is ridiculous. Good luck.

knight_shadow 11-21-2010 01:47 PM
This thread turned into a jumbled mess lol

Saying what men are "supposed" to do and what women are "supposed" to do is the problem. It's also a problem when you say things are done because it's the "Southern" way of doing things (see the white after labor day thread).

Context matters. In some social settings, it would be odd to for me to stand every time a woman leaves the table. In others (ex. debutante ball or something), it would make sense. I shouldn't feel like I'm "less of a man" or "not as Southern" just because I don't follow every set of rules in every situation.

DrPhil 11-21-2010 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2005366)
DrPhil has not once used those two words in this thread. You have. Gusteau has. The OP has.

Please tell me where in the following post "I think" occurs.
Based on her very first post, she assumed that I was calling it ridiculous because of "some of it seems ridiculous to some people."

LOL @ knight_shadow. This thread is another reason why I really don't like etiquette classes beyond more basic table etiquette. And I agree with you about "supposed to."

Alumiyum 11-21-2010 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2005366)
DrPhil has not once used those two words in this thread. You have. Gusteau has. The OP has. Irishlake has. WTF are you talking about?

Please tell me where in the following post "I think" occurs.


Now, go back and analyze where it is her personal opinion "I believe" and where it is a more generalized statement "some people."

There'll be a quiz.
Ah, right she believes, not thinks. Sorry, how is that not personal opinion?

Drolefille 11-21-2010 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2005373)
Based on her very first post, she assumed that I was calling it ridiculous because of "some of it seems ridiculous to some people."

LOL @ knight_shadow. This thread is another reason why I really don't like etiquette classes beyond more basic table etiquette. And I agree with you about "supposed to."
Yes, I elaborated more fully in my post and provided her with basic reading comprehension homework.

DrPhil 11-21-2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005375)
Ah, right she believes, not thinks. Sorry, how is that not personal opinion?
I believe that some people don't brush their teeth.

Am I one of the people who doesn't brush their teeth (knight_shadow is) or do I believe that there are such people?

Alumiyum 11-21-2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2005377)
Yes, I elaborated more fully in my post and provided her with basic reading comprehension homework.
I wish I could be as self congratulating as you guys are. I would never need a pat on the back from anyone. :D

knight_shadow 11-21-2010 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2005381)
I believe that some people don't brush their teeth.

Am I one of the people who doesn't brush their teeth (knight_shadow is) or do I believe that there are such people?
What the deuce?

DrPhil 11-21-2010 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 2005382)
I wish I could be as self congratulating as you guys are. I would never need a pat on the back from anyone. :D
Basic Etiquette 101 in my social and professional settings is to not use "guys" as a general term. Context matters.

Alumiyum 11-21-2010 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2005388)
Basic Etiquette 101 in my social and professional settings is to not use "guys" as a general term. Context matters.
This is far from a social or professional setting.

DrPhil 11-21-2010 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2005384)
What the deuce?
Forgive my bad etiquette.

Munchkin03 11-21-2010 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2005391)
Forgive my bad etiquette.
You're such a bad Southerner! Tsk tsk tsk.


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