Curling, skeleton, bobsled, figure skating.

I'm pretty sure none of those are college sports. I'm not sure about skiing, snowboarding, archery, cycling.

Thanks. Those aren't college sports (I assume for most colleges) but they are considered sports, in general.

I guess cheerleading can't be in the Olympics because there are already cheerleading competitions year-round.

I didn't mean that they're not sports. Just that simply being an Olympic sport doesn't mean it's a recognized college sport. If that makes sense.

Is there some sort of set of national guidelines that your program has to pass to be regarded as a competitive squad? Maybe that would help to determine whether it's a sport or not - either you fulfill certain requirements or you can't use it to meet Title IX.

LOL @ Sen. I'm partial to that one down front on the left.

Do I need to go on, or are we just gonna have a semantics debate about me not specifying competitive?

That's the one I was checking out.

Uh...what? Find a more interesting topic to try to be a smartass about.

Are you now specifying competitive? If so, say so. Now, when you say competitive, are you talking about cheerleading that doesn't resemble competitive dance squads void of tumbles, towers, and jumps? Afterall, even competitive cheerleading has levels.

These are your tasks since you wanted to establish guidelines for the discussion.

Okay semantics debate it is. Moving on.

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If figure skating can be a sport, so can cheerleading.

:confused: Shuttup. Seriously.

Or else what, you will cuss me out on the internet?

Seriously its not that serious. I can apologize for my part for it even escalating to this point...cause it ain't that serious...its just semantics.

I understand that this isn't the official definition of a sport, but I tend to think that a sport is an athletic event that is judged objectively rather than subjectively.

So, for snowboarding, I think if it is a snowboard race I'd see it as a sport, because the winner is simply the person who crosses the line first or in the shortest amount of time. However, if it is being judged on tricks alone than I'd think of it as a very athletic competitive event, but not a sport per say.

By that definition, I do not think that cheerleading is a sport. I do think it is a competitive event that is incredibly athletic, but I don't think it is an official sport.

I don't think athleticism alone makes something a sport...it is widely agreed that ballet is one of the most athletic endeavors one can undertake, but I don't think that the athletic element automatically makes it a sport. Things like snowboarding and cheerleading are closer because they involve competition, but by the basis that they are judged subjectively they seem like incredibly athletic events that veer closer to an art form than a sport.

Lastly, I do not think marching band is a sport either. I'm sure that carrying some of the instruments is intense, but at the end of the day the athleticism required is only a tiny fraction of what is needed to be successful in competitions. Musicality and the ability to play your instrument well are infinitely more important.

The debate isn't even about whether cheerleading is a sport. it is about whether it's a collegiate sport that falls under Title IX. The title of the thread is misleading. For one, if it is COED, it cannot oust a female sport under Title IX.

This judge didn't diss on cheerleading or even say it wasn't a sport.

I'm trying to figure out how cheerleading became your hot-button issue.

Because I'm just hot like that.

Smart A$$ comment aside, No particular reason actually, it was just an off comment that blew up more than it needed to.

Could have been easily ignored.

Fair enough.

I'll go back to waiting for college football to start back up *exits thread*