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KSig RC 12-04-2009 12:52 PM

The 2nd link is very much geared toward the "Power User" but the first should be very basic and easy to use . . . coincidentally, it'll make browsing much safer too.

I have no idea what happened to lovespink, small chance of spyware re-direct issues though.

DaemonSeid 12-04-2009 02:18 PM

waiting for Greek Porn to pop up in one of those ads....hehehe

pshsx1 12-04-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1872485)
waiting for Greek Porn to pop up in one of those ads....hehehe

hahaha

Coincidentally, whenever I Google "Sigma Phi Epsilon" on Google Images, I usually get a result for a gay porn site (that I think gossips about dirty things that Greeks do on part of the site.. not sure) on about the 5th page.

And since these are all Google ads... heh

John 12-05-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1871652)
would it be possible to set up the ads so that they do not intrude on the actual thread content?

Yes, this is just one of the ways I'm testing out at the moment. I'm not yet sure if this ad location will be short term or for a longer duration.

Personally, I'd prefer no ads on GC, but it's getting to the point where that is no longer possible.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1871664)
They seem to be appearing as the second post on every page, not just as the second post in the thread.

You're right. It's not the second post in each thread but rather the second post on each thread view page.

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1871669)
:(

:o In hindsight, that word is rather illogical and redundant. Yet, spell check doesn't pick it up, it's in the dictionary and is commonly used. Very odd. I understand why you would go :(, though, since I do the same whenever I hear "don't" incorrectly used in place of "doesn't." I hope to remember this one.

On another note, this has given me a potentially good idea for a new website. No time for it, though, so off to the back burner for that one.

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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1871840)
I find them really intrusive too. The last thing I want to see in a thread about the death of someone is an ad looking like it's part of the conversation.

The fact it's mimicking an actual post/er disturbs me.

That's sort of the catch-22 with advertising. Being intrusive, so they are difficult to miss, is what makes them valuable to the advertisers. I'll be working towards an optimal balance, but not really sure how this will all end up since I'm still in test mode with the ads.

I sure hope you know that I'm not trying to hurt any feelings when ads are displayed on pages with bad news, such as a death. The ads are not coded to display on a per thread basis and setting something like that up would not be easy. I'll be testing other ad setups soon and maybe will move on to a design that's more suitable.

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1871865)
would it be possible to design the ads similarly to the way ads appear on facebook?

Not sure, but I'll look into that. Can you point me to a specific page with examples of the ads you're referring to?

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1872031)
I would prefer them on the right, because my phone scrolls through columns, starting with the left most column - and it already takes forever to get to the actual GC content. I'm assuming any phone that has Mobile Web 2.0 is going to be the same. I think even my Blackberry was that way.

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1872047)
for mobile users, it would make sense to have them on the right side.

then again, if "m.greekchat.com" existed, we'd be ok. then again, small steps, right?

A version of GC designed for mobile users is not in the works, but is definitely something I have been thinking about for a while now. Maybe a mobile version can be developed for GC in the not too distant future. I think it would be a good thing and probably quite useful for many site members.

I have been considering to move the sidebar to the right side, so maybe will do that if it makes things better for mobile viewers.

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1872117)
I'd also probably like all of the advertisements on the left side of the screen. While it's not a HUGE deal, it's annoying that the first thing I read while entering every thread is "1 Tip of a Flat Belly".

I agree about that being an annoying ad. I don't like it very much. Honestly, I'm not really happy with the quality of ads that Google decides to run on GC. Many are perfectly fine, but there are quite a few that are just silly.

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Originally Posted by AXiDMeesh (Post 1872146)
haha I get that ad and a Greek Dish Network ad with a bunch of Greek networks on it...not that kind of greekchat!!

It makes sense that Google would get mixed up about this. Ultimately, my goal is to eventually move away from using Google ads if possible. If GC does end up running these ads for a long period I'll get in touch with someone at Google to see about improving their ad targeting for GreekChat.

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1872202)
It'd be nice if maybe the ads were a page break. Maybe if they were just a line of small Google ads that went horizontal rather than the ads being an actual intrusive post.

That's similar to one of the ad designs I plan to be testing out soon.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1872204)
If you're using FireFox you have plenty of "options" for making this happen.

I can completely understand why you would want to do this. But look at it from the following point of view: What do you think might happen to GreekChat if you are successful in getting too many viewers to cut off GC's primary source of funding (advertising)? In that scenario, how would you suggest I pay for the costs of running GC? There are other options, but my guess is that most viewers will prefer advertising be on the site as compared to the alternative.

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Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn (Post 1872383)
I like the advertisements on the top or bottom, so I don't have to see them on the screen all the time...but I do NOT appreciate quick flashing advertisements.

The first GC ad in a thread I read was actually for Border's advertising the Twilight series in the New Moon thread. I was thinking that was appropriate advertising, but now I just scroll past them and don't read them.

This is primarily why I stayed away from Google ads on GC for so long. Google doesn't have an option for publishers to pre-approve advertisements. I've seen quite a few high quality ads that I was happy to see here, but also many other ads that were low quality. In time I plan to have this all sorted out, with higher quality ads & optimal display setup.

KSig RC 12-07-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John (Post 1872778)
I can completely understand why you would want to do this. But look at it from the following point of view: What do you think might happen to GreekChat if you are successful in getting too many viewers to cut off GC's primary source of funding (advertising)? In that scenario, how would you suggest I pay for the costs of running GC? There are other options, but my guess is that most viewers will prefer advertising be on the site as compared to the alternative.

I nearly didn't post for exactly this reason - however, you of all people probably understand that there are whitelist-based solutions that will allow Google Ad Services to receive a hit/pageview while a.) not being intrusive and b.) not violating their Terms of Service. If you'd like to post a tutorial, I'd encourage it, because the ads suck as currently implemented, and it's hard to justify changing my current browsing setup (including potentially compromising security, a much larger potential cost to me as a user) as a result.

I think the majority of users will remain altruistic and that you'll make more than enough to cover server costs. Should that prove not to be the case, let me know and I'll reconsider.

FSUZeta 12-07-2009 02:13 PM

john, i am talking about the ads in the side margins of my main facebook page. they are unobtrusive, but in the past, i have actually clicked on a few of them to see what was what.

ThetaDancer 12-07-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1873125)
john, i am talking about the ads in the side margins of my main facebook page. they are unobtrusive, but in the past, i have actually clicked on a few of them to see what was what.

I like this idea and I have actually clicked on a handful of the ads in the past. They never interfere with the content of my fb page so I don't really mind them, whereas the GC ones that are part of the actual thread interfere with the content and are obnoxious, so I just quickly scroll past the post and wouldn't ever click on the links it contains.


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