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JohnnyCash 05-06-2009 01:30 AM

I thought nude pictures were a requirement to be a "Miss ______"...

WCsweet<3 05-06-2009 02:56 AM

Alright, so ignoring the entire question controversy, this seems like odd timing to me. If it was an attack by homosexual supporters, wouldn't it have come up earlier? It seems like a long wait to me.

AGDee 05-06-2009 07:26 AM

The bottom line is, you piss off Perez Hilton and ANY skeleton you may have in your closet will be out. Fair? Hell no. But it is the reality of a bizarre sector of society who loves to bring down famous people with vicious gossip.

deepimpact2 05-06-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtual Violet (Post 1806666)
Am I the only one who has had enough with this story?. While I think we all should "live and let live", I don't know why Perez Hilton and others who are in support of gay marriage has chosen to cruicify her for giving her opinion on a topic when she was asked about it DIRECTLY. Was she supposed to pander to those who asked the question or avoid the answer? It seems to be a bit much "punishment" for being truthful:mad:

This does not help the gay marriage "cause" one bit. They should tell Perez Hilton to sit down and take a pill!

I have heard some theories that the reason she was asked the question and is being crucified like this is because of what happened with Proposition 8 out in California. I would not be surprised if that indeed turned out to be true. I haven't done any other research, but my understanding is that she was the only one who was asked this question and if that is true, I don't think it was a coincidence that SHE was the one asked.

As far as those who feel she didn't answer the question directly, I guess I don't see why people feel that way. I thought the question was how she felt about gay marriage or whether she supported it and she basically said no.

KSigkid 05-06-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1806670)
I don't even know who the reigning Miss USA even IS.

That's not bad, I always confuse Miss USA and Miss America. I couldn't tell you the difference.

texas*princess 05-06-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1806731)
The bottom line is, you piss off Perez Hilton and ANY skeleton you may have in your closet will be out. Fair? Hell no. But it is the reality of a bizarre sector of society who loves to bring down famous people with vicious gossip.

The thing is, Perez Hilton had NOTHING to do with the pictures surfacing. The pictures were sent to thedirty.com. He posted them up on his site, but that's what he does - he "reports" on famous/infamous people.


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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1806640)
My guess is that most people in this thread couldn't care less about her tact if she had said something that was more in line with their beliefs...people are upset about the belief that she expressed, and they're using the tact issue to supplement their argument.

Again, I don't agree with what she said, but the timing and ferocity with which people are attacking her make me think that this goes beyond the usual "OMG she posed for that picture!" discussion.

The people in this thread were talking about her choosing to take nude/semi-nude pictures until you brought up the whole "they are really trying to tear her down b/c of what she said" stuff.

I believe the pictures would have come up either way, because there are plenty of Miss Whatevers who have taken these sorts of pictures and got bit in the ass later because of it.

She could have avoided all of this entirely if she kept her clothes on but she had a lapse in judgement.

Her answer is a completely different story and she's using the 'oh woe is me! I'm a victim b/c of my strong Christian beliefs" crap.

And for what it's worth, being photographed nude/semi-nude is not the only contract breaching she's being accused of. Apparently there is another clause in there about not going out and doing interviews/appearances without the consent of the Miss California organization, and guess what she's been doing recently :rolleyes:

ETA: CNN article

KSigkid 05-06-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1806787)
The people in this thread were talking about her choosing to take nude/semi-nude pictures until you brought up the whole "they are really trying to tear her down b/c of what she said" stuff.

Well, to be fair there wasn't much of a discussion since I was only the third post. I agree that this would have been news no matter what, but I do think that her comments are affecting the reaction to the news (which is what Kevin and a couple of others in the thread have also said).

texas*princess 05-06-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1806794)
Well, to be fair there wasn't much of a discussion since I was only the third post. I agree that this would have been news no matter what, but I do think that her comments are affecting the reaction to the news (which is what Kevin and a couple of others in the thread have also said).

There are a lot of people who don't agree with what she had to say, but it just doesn't make sense that people are blaming those who oppose what she said for the pictures and for what may happen to her title.

She agreed to take those pictures. No one else made her. And just like every other girl before her, she needs to own up and hold herself accountable for her actions.

Yea, this is probably a little bit more on the radar than it has been with past beauty queens, but if anything, she sort of did that to herself. She could have said once "yea, I said that. Those are my beliefs" and been done with it - gone back to her Miss Cali duties and it would have blown over in a few weeks, but she chose to catapult herself into the spotlight and went on every interview/appearance that she could.

I'd even go as far as to say that whoever had those photographs probably got a HUGE sum of money b/c she chose to make such a huge media spectacle of herself.

agzg 05-06-2009 12:07 PM

I don't give a rats about her answer or her pictures. I just want to know why the hell Perez Hilton was a judge.

Senusret I 05-06-2009 12:09 PM

Why is anyone ever a pageant judge? They get people who are celebrity-esque and available.

AGDee 05-06-2009 01:03 PM

I see nothing wrong with those pictures. I see no nudity, nothing that couldn't be shown on TV or that you don't see in a clothing catalogue. As demonstrated, there is no more skin than in the swimsuit competition. I don't think anybody bothers to come up with dirt on the first runner up. Nobody ever cares about the first runner up. The winner, sure! Look at Vanessa Williams, but not the first runner up. The whole thing is silly.

KSigkid 05-06-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1806811)
Why is anyone ever a pageant judge? They get people who are celebrity-esque and available.

Yep - and it's an easy way to stay relevant and get on TV. It makes sense for all involved.

Munchkin03 05-06-2009 01:53 PM

If this is all there is, I don't see the uproar. Vanessa Williams's pictures were far, far more scandalous.

Plenty of people are against gay marriage, but don't consider themselves "conservative" or "traditional." I'm not sure how hypocritical that is, but I think a lot of people on the left equate being against gay marriage with being generally conservative--even personally conservative, when that's not the case.

honeychile 05-06-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1806828)
I see nothing wrong with those pictures. I see no nudity, nothing that couldn't be shown on TV or that you don't see in a clothing catalogue. As demonstrated, there is no more skin than in the swimsuit competition. I don't think anybody bothers to come up with dirt on the first runner up. Nobody ever cares about the first runner up. The winner, sure! Look at Vanessa Williams, but not the first runner up. The whole thing is silly.

I agree. The average Victoria's Secret catalog shows about the same amount of skin, yet nobody blasts a woman for shopping there.

a.e.B.O.T. 05-06-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1806850)
I agree. The average Victoria's Secret catalog shows about the same amount of skin, yet nobody blasts a woman for shopping there.

Well, you don't see those Victoria's Secret girls handing out any christian pamphlets either...


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