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PiKA2001 02-10-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1777810)
My husband went to the Social Security office.

In 10 - 14 days he will no longer be undocumented. :)
Undocumented migrant is the ultra PC term used, I prefer to use the term illegal, since it makes the most sense. It is illegal to cross the border at places other than ports of entry,which they do , and they are aliens so.....illegal aliens. Everyone has civil rights in the U.S., whether you're a citizen or not it doesn't matter. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Mexican Government is aiding/assisting these 16 on their lawsuit against this rancher, they love lawsuits against the U.S. by illegals. Its unfortunate that this is happening to this certain rancher, who has a history of stopping crossings in his area. Lawsuit is probably an attempt to intimidate him and other landowners.

Kevin 02-10-2009 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1777827)
Have you checked for the current docs on PACER? Because it appears the Times story uses very old information - currently, there is no argument between the parties that the defendant carried and brandished a handgun at the scene, but instead as to whether the use of the handgun constitutes assault and/or an imprisoning gesture.
It's not worth paying money to see these docs.

I'm not that invested in this case.

Munchkin03 02-10-2009 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1777833)
Undocumented migrant is the ultra PC term used, I prefer to use the term illegal, since it makes the most sense.
I agree.

KSig RC 02-10-2009 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1777838)
It's not worth paying money to see these docs.

I'm not that invested in this case.
Don't blame you in the slightest.

nikki1920 02-12-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1777504)
Um, I think "illegal" has nothing to do with class, and everything to do with the idea that they are here illegally. I've known of college-educated, white-collar illegal immigrants. They were not in compliance with the law, and so "illegal".

eta - My husband has lost his Social Security card. He is temporarily "undocumented".
If he's got proof of being born on American soil, he's ok. :)

The term we use at the office is "undocumented alien". Our computer system says "illegal alien". Tomayto, tomahto.

SWTXBelle 02-12-2009 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1778842)
If he's got proof of being born on American soil, he's ok. :)

The term we use at the office is "undocumented alien". Our computer system says "illegal alien". Tomayto, tomahto.
Oh, I know. Just my little joke . . . :)


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