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DrPhil

01-22-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768908)

No I don't care. I threw the biracial comment in there to be an asshole.

Congrats. Now shut up.

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768902)

"Never thought Id say this ish
Baby Im good
You can keep your Kush? (rhymes with Bush, idk what-poor quality)
I don't want no more Bush
No more war
No more Iraq
No more white lies
the president is Black"

If you listen to the whole verse not just that one line then I think the context can help explain it. In my opinion the white lies line refers to Bush and the war in Iraq not all white people.

Will.I.Am and Oprah were not on your Christmas card list huh? lol. Its okay. I understand.

The rest of the verse is fine but that one line is mean, divisive and offensive. Imagine the societal backlash that would occur if Alan Jackson sang about "black lies" when referring to Obama.
PM Mama: There is NO WAY that he was referring to "white lies" as in small lies that are OK if something good comes out of it in the end.

DrPhil

01-22-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. (Post 1768902)

No more white lies
the president is Black"

It's a play on words, which is what rappers are good at.

I never thought it was supposed to apply to "all" white people.

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768911)

We don't abide by that.

Race is about what people identify as and how others identify them. Obama is pretty secure with being a black man who is biracial because he has a white mother.

Confused people of all races and ethnicities need to get over that. Or spend their time consulting Tiger Woods on their opinion of what he should identify as.

I completely agree.

PM_Mama00

01-22-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768913)

Congrats. Now shut up.

Dude, I thought we were getting along? :(

Kevlar281

01-22-2009 12:53 AM

So apparently it was a remix of "My President is Black." Lyrics Couldn't find the "white lies" line.

I did find this one however...

"Yeah, our history, black history, no president ever did shit for me"

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768915)

It's a play on words, which is what rappers are good at.

I never thought it was supposed to apply to "all" white people.

Explain how this is a play on words- that is ridiculous. He also shouted it louder than the rest of his lines.

DrPhil

01-22-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768917)

Dude, I thought we were getting along? :(

Until you type something dumb.

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1768919)

Except Lincoln and LBJ.
Anyway, that line that you posted was great, its actually pretty intriguing and clever.

DaemonSeid

01-22-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768920)

Explain how this is a play on words- that is ridiculous. He also shouted it louder than the rest of his lines.

Wait... are you saying the rappers speak in the literal?

Hmmmm........I guess they call it word play for nothing.

DrPhil

01-22-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768920)

Explain how this is a play on words- that is ridiculous. He also shouted it louder than the rest of his lines.

Uh...what are you debating me about?

pinkies up

01-22-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1768892)

Usually when one parents is one race, and the other parent is another race, it's called Bi-racial. Would you like me to look that up for you?

I am biracial, half-white, etc.. but, I would look like a fool walking around claiming white. No matter what, I will be looked at as a black woman. (and PROUD of it, I might add...)

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1768923)

Wait... are you saying the rappers speak in the literal?

Hmmmm........I guess they call it word play for nothing.

I'm aware that song and rap lyrics aren't literal and don't see how that applies here.

PhiGam

01-22-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1768924)

Uh...what are you debating me about?

The lyrics being racist or not?

DrPhil

01-22-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1768928)

I'm aware that song and rap lyrics aren't literal and don't see how that applies here.

LOL...so you see how rap is a word play.

White lies = seemingly harmless lies with big ramifications
white lies = the lies that a white dominated structure/white POTUS have been feeding the people

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