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annabella 12-01-2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lovelyinpearlss (Post 1749093)
If you are no longer giving advice to prospects/ or answering questions thats fine, but when a question arises and it is answered in such a demeaning way...that is not ok.

No, it's totally ok. Because you're an idiot. We should take bets on how soon after your rush you start posting questions about how to start a colony.

SureSister 12-01-2008 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ellebud (Post 1749661)
As the mother of a daughter your age, and as a Jewish woman (without a "Jewish" last name) who went through rush at a time when Jews only were invited to a "Jewish" house I will try and answer your question.

If you a so inclined to exclude a house simply because it is historically Jewish (or mostly Jewish) wear a cross. I imagine that the sisters at that house (or houses) would get your message very quickly. If a house excludes you because of your name (at least in your mind) then you must ask yourself if that is a house that you want. If the answer is, Yes, I want to be part of a house (if they still exist) that would exclude my mother or grandmother because of their religion or suspicion of a religious affiliation...why? You will always be watched for "signs" of being Jewish. And that isn't sisterhood.

Ellebud, thank you for adding your opinion to this thread. Your perspective is so important to this woman's genuine concern regarding discrimination. You are able to relate to the experience of sorority recruitment as it relates to Jewish (or possibly-Jewish) women and Jewish (or not exclusively Jewish) sororities. It probably helped her, and if it didn't, it will help other prospective sorority members who will have the same question in the future. Mothers, aunts, grandmothers will continue to share their sorority stories for years to come, and the biases of yesteryear will be the fears of tomorrow's prospective sorority members.

Wouldn't it be nice of the responses to this OP were stories of what it is or was like on different campuses? For example, if you are a current sorority member, which religion is most largely represented in your chapter? What is the "norm" on your campus?

Lovelyinpearlss, thank you for coming to GreekChat to openly express your concern. If you can practice ignoring the posts that offend you, and focusing on the helpful posts, you will find an absolute wealth of resources here. There are countless intelligent, articulate, well-mannered members who can give you good advice. Good luck with sorority recruitment!

PANTHERTEKE 12-01-2008 04:36 AM

I would imagine you have that concern because either: a) you're going to a very big, traditional and/or Southern school where that kind of shit still matters or b) the people who told you that are complete idiots.

The Deephers and PhiSigs on my campus aren't very Jewish, if at all. (DPhiE started off as a Jewish sorority and PhiSig was founded by Jewish girls as a non-sectarian sorority). There are more Jewish girls in another group than either of those two.

Anyway, my point is that nowadays in most places it doesn't really matter what religion you may, or may not, belong to. At least not to the point of you getting blackballed because of your last name.

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I have been hearing from various people not affiliated with greek life ...
Nevermind. That solves it all.

33girl 12-01-2008 11:15 AM

If a group cuts you because they think you're Jewish, they're obviously a bunch of snobby bigoted bitches.

However, if that group of snobby bigoted bitches is where you want to be, do as ellebud said and wear a cross.

fantASTic 12-01-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by annabella (Post 1749679)
No, it's totally ok. Because you're an idiot. We should take bets on how soon after your rush you start posting questions about how to start a colony.

That was way out of line.


OP: While I see why some people think this is a silly question, I have to say that considering your aunt WAS discriminated against for this very reason, I understand exactly why you are asking. All we can say is that no, you will probably not be dropped because of your name - very few, if any, campuses follow those procedures any more.

Senusret I 12-01-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1749751)
that considering your aunt WAS discriminated against for this very reason,

And we know that how?

Membership selection is secret. For all we know, the aunt could have been a douchebag.

Kevin 12-01-2008 12:20 PM

Membership selection criteria have probably changed somewhat over the last 2-3 decades. Even if the story is true, it's pretty easily dismissible.

DrPhil 12-01-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SureSister (Post 1749700)
Ellebud, thank you for adding your opinion to this thread. Your perspective is so important to this woman's genuine concern regarding discrimination. You are able to relate to the experience of sorority recruitment as it relates to Jewish (or possibly-Jewish) women and Jewish (or not exclusively Jewish) sororities. It probably helped her, and if it didn't, it will help other prospective sorority members who will have the same question in the future. Mothers, aunts, grandmothers will continue to share their sorority stories for years to come, and the biases of yesteryear will be the fears of tomorrow's prospective sorority members.

Wouldn't it be nice of the responses to this OP were stories of what it is or was like on different campuses? For example, if you are a current sorority member, which religion is most largely represented in your chapter? What is the "norm" on your campus?

Lovelyinpearlss, thank you for coming to GreekChat to openly express your concern. If you can practice ignoring the posts that offend you, and focusing on the helpful posts, you will find an absolute wealth of resources here. There are countless intelligent, articulate, well-mannered members who can give you good advice. Good luck with sorority recruitment!

:rolleyes: Passive aggressive.

33girl 12-01-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1749761)
:rolleyes: Passive aggressive.

Actually, passive spamming for her stupid blog.

DrPhil 12-01-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1749774)


LOL....

fantASTic 12-01-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1749753)
And we know that how?

Membership selection is secret. For all we know, the aunt could have been a douchebag.


It's pretty well known that 30 to 40 years ago, it WAS a big deal to have a Jewish name. Many of the retro recruitment stories on this site that I've read have mentioned this in detail. Stay in your lane.

Senusret I 12-01-2008 02:11 PM

She said 20 years ago, bitch. Stay in yours.

fantASTic 12-01-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1749809)
She said 20 years ago, bitch. Stay in yours.

This is my lane. I don't recall you being a member of an NPC sorority.

I don't see the reason for name-calling, either.

Senusret I 12-01-2008 02:18 PM

LMAO.... I'm sure some of your NPC sisters wouldn't consider you being in their lane either.

DrPhil 12-01-2008 02:40 PM

Welp...there's a reason that some NPCers don't like membership questions to be asked on here. :)


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